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Implemented Random Vote Items For Regrowth

Discussion in 'Archive (Suggestion and Feedback)' started by MrSquidward_, May 9, 2015.

  1. MrSquidward_

    MrSquidward_ Well-Known Member

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    RandomItems:
    #Common Items:
    - '2' #Grass
    - '54' #Chest
    - '6:0' #Oak Sapling
    - '111' #Lily Pad
    - '265' #Iron Ingot
    - '364' #Steak
    - '357' #Cookie
    - '766:0' #Livingrock
    - '1240:0' #Improved Stone Chest
    - '318' #Flint
    - '15' #Iron Ore
    - '1485' #Barrel
    - '352' #Bone
    - '266' #Gold Ingot
    - '5230:0' #Basic Control Circuit
    - '341' #Slimeball
    - '4639:0' #Manasteel Ingot
    - '1504:0' #Pearl Oyster
    - '337' #Clay
    - '173' #Block of Coal
    - '338' #Sugar Canes
    - '16' #Coal Ore
    - '49' #Obsidian
    - '369' #Blaze Rod
    - '368' #Ender Pearl
    - '154' #Hopper
    - '58' #Crafting Table
    - '152' #Block of redstone
    - '5142:0' #White Pearl
    #Medium Items:
    - '264' #Diamond
    - '130' #Ender Chest
    - '4960:3' #Cobalt Ingot
    - '4960:4' #Ardite Ingot
    - '145:0' #Anvil
    - '42' #Block of Iron
    - '254:0' #Block of Amber
    - '4148:3' #Quicksilver
    - '41' #Gold Block
    - '383:6422' #Spawn Villager
    - '4639' #Mana Diamond
    - '4707' #Mana in a Bottle
    - '4730:0' #Black Lotus
    - '976' #Laser
    - '1240:3' #Improved Diamond Chest
    - '622:3' #Modest Hive
    - '56' #Diamond Ore
    - '5140:3' #Impure Titanium Ingot
    - '5140:13' #Magnesium Dust
    - '773:0' #Mana Pylon
    - '1446' #Thaumic Cake
    - '57' #Block of diamond
    #Rare/good
    - '4673' #Greater Band of Aura
    - '399' #Nether Star
    - '430:0' #Aura Node
    - '4639:4' #Terrasteel Ingot
    - '4148:9' #Knowledge Fragment
    - '1446' #Thaumic Cake
    - '5010:6' #Green Heart Canister
    - '122' #Dragon Egg
    
    Something like that
     
  2. Bennyboy1695

    Bennyboy1695 Well-Known Member

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    @BookerTheGeek you know the most about regrowth, what are your thoughts ?
     
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  3. MrSquidward_

    MrSquidward_ Well-Known Member

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    I think there is nothing that affects your quests *alot*
     
  4. The_Icy_One

    The_Icy_One Procrastinates by doing work

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    The spawn villager egg is a quest item, and giving metals will allow skipping quests, I think.
     
  5. MrSquidward_

    MrSquidward_ Well-Known Member

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    With metals you dont skip any quest.(i think)
     
  6. Ralph_Anthony

    Ralph_Anthony Well-Known Member

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    Anything would bu OP or useless after first day, in regrowth. Since Myms are useless for anything but claims, just give 160 claim blocks, bypass the myms, or for an item have a random bonus claim blocks.
     
  7. jackripper0987

    jackripper0987 New Member

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    My revised list, as a lot of those items allows for MASSIVE progression breaking

    RandomItems:
    #Common Items:
    - '2' #Grass
    - '54' #Chest
    - '111' #Lily Pad
    - '364' #Steak
    - '357' #Cookie
    - '766:0' #Livingrock
    - '318' #Flint
    - '1485' #Barrel
    - '352' #Bone
    - '4639:0' #Manasteel Ingot Maybe just some mana instead? Black lotus maybe
    - '337' #Clay
    - '263:1' #Charcoal Maybe 16 of them
    - '368' #Ender Pearl
    - '154' #Hopper
    - '58' #Crafting Table
    - '5142:0' #White Pearl
    #Medium Items:
    - '130' #Ender Chest
    - '145:0' #Anvil
    - '4707' #Mana in a Bottle
    - '4730:0' #Black Lotus Maybe just a blacker lotus
    - '622:3' #Modest Hive
    - '773:0' #Mana Pylon
    - '1446' #Thaumic Cake
    #Rare/good
    - '4673' #Greater Band of Aura You get this in a end quest, Maybe go for band of mana (which is less) or just more mana
    - '399' #Nether Star
    - '430:0' #Aura Node
    - '4639:4' #Terrasteel Ingot Maybe just a few blacker lotus, or mana tablet
    - '4148:9' #Knowledge Fragment
    - '1446' #Thaumic Cake
    - '5010:6' #Green Heart Canister
    - '122' #Dragon Egg Seems a bit OP, maybe just a dragon egg fragment? (if so may need the middle item aswell, maybe middle one Rare and the fragments (need 8 for egg) more common) Maybe a lower chance for that (or have the mariculture fish that has a rare drop of dragon egg?)


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    Thats the revised list from sky, some of these things are aplicable to mid-endgame users without progressing starting as infrastructure is needed for better items

    As it is a lower list maybe chuck in a few sytle items that can only be gotten by voting?
     
  8. chaosblad3

    chaosblad3 Very Well-Known Member Patron Tier 1

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    Just in case you are not aware the random item plugin does not currently support giving set quantities of items, it can only give single items, so for example instead of the suggestion to give 16 charcoal it would be better to give 1 block of charcoal which can be broken down into 9 pieces of charcoal instead.
     
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  9. jackripper0987

    jackripper0987 New Member

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    I did think of that but there isnt a block of charcoal, there is a coal block but I am not sure if coal allows progression breaking
     
  10. chaosblad3

    chaosblad3 Very Well-Known Member Patron Tier 1

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    To be honest with you, I think minor progression breaking from a vote reward is acceptable to a point... as a donor I can join the server and then do /kit resource and have a bunch of coal, lapis, diamonds, iron, gold, cobalt etc given to me, but that only breaks a relatively small part of the progression since to make a tinkers tool out of the cobalt I still need to follow the necessary steps to build a smeltery and make casts and stuff.. now if there was any elementium on that list for example then yes that would definitely be massively progression breaking ;)
     
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    jackripper0987 New Member

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    Minor progression breaking is certainly acceptable, and being a donor getting resources is necessary. I probably could make a point of ardite picks breaking progression due to not having to make steel through a blast furnace and going straight to the higher tier ores. But as you get diamonds and stuff I dont think its that much of a problem

    Maybe (if avaliable) adding voting picks/axes ect from tinkers
    So something like
    Common
    Pickaxe - Iron, haste, fortune 3 (useless in this pack), repair
    Axe - Iron, haste, fortune 3, repair
    Mattock - Iron, repair
    Sword - Iron, looting 1, repair

    Medium
    Sword(better type) - Iron, looting 3, repair, haste

    Rare
    LumberAxe - Iron, fortune 3, repair
    Scyth - Iron, repair

    Kind of a crap selection, someone who knows more about tinkers tools should redo but just a general idea
     
  12. chaosblad3

    chaosblad3 Very Well-Known Member Patron Tier 1

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    I like the idea, but again I don't think the current vote reward plugin would support tools with existing modifiers, the basic tinkers tools you can spawn in with creative mode would possibly work since they have simple item id's but I don't think anything with nbtdata would work..

    @Slind can you confirm?
     
  13. Tokoshoran

    Tokoshoran Well-Known Member

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    Little thing about "Progression Breaking:" It doesn't work. Yes, you'll have the data filled in to complete those quests once you get to them, but having that data filled in will not allow you to skip any quests that require you to progress down the line, anyways. Say you need to get Iron, then Diamond, then Steel. Getting a steel ingot will not unlock the steel quest, nor will it finish the Iron or Diamond quests for you. Only once you finish both of those two quests will you suddenly find your Steel quest completed, at the same time it is unlocked.
     
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    i would like to say that progression breaking is possible but it might take a bit. say a couple quest from where you are you need to get an iron ingot. and today you just got one from voting, all of a suddon that one quest that you needed to get that iron ingot is done and you dont have to do any of the work you were suppost to do. and therefore with getting items from voting would break a lot of quests because you could just "skip" over them
     
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    Yorinar Well-Known Member

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    Could put some random vanilla potions in there. Swiftness, night vision, healing, etc. Does that shortcut any quests?
     
  16. jackripper0987

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    It doesnt, only some of the witchery potions need those potions and some of the high end seeds
    But once you get to those you have everything you need to make a thousand of them
     
  17. chaosblad3

    chaosblad3 Very Well-Known Member Patron Tier 1

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    Considering that you are limited to only a few votes per day, if you are lucky enough to get an iron ingot in your first day and that saves you a few hours of early game work then that's a great vote reward especially because it's such a small chance that it will happen before you have already got to it anyway ;)

    I think it would be fun to have those rare chances for voters since donors get that for some things already anyway.

    By the way, since I can't get in to game right now can someone get me the item id for tiny potato please..?
     
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  18. Tokoshoran

    Tokoshoran Well-Known Member

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    You skip the effort, yes, but not the progress. Typically, these quests are set up so you need the majority of the devices, anyways.
     
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  19. MaelstromPhoenix

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    The thing about the questbook is that its not necessary. You can make a blast furnace on your own without having to get the quest for it. Regardless, if anything like this were to be implemented I believe @BookerTheGeek would have the final say.
     
  20. jackripper0987

    jackripper0987 New Member

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    Ofcourse the quest book isnt necessary, but there is a progression set by the mods itself, which is why you cant get endgame items at the start

    I would like to know @Constructl0n input before books final say
     

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