Please clarify what happens if a team member is duping/griefing

Discussion in 'Community Talk' started by ben_mkiv, Feb 24, 2016.

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should the whole group be punished for such behavior

  1. yes

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  2. no

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  1. ben_mkiv

    ben_mkiv Well-Known Member

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    he made the ticket, wasn't banned, but got all his stuff deleted.

    even his progress in witchery oO


    anyway, that slind and some director allready said that this is not the standardcase settles me down a bit now :)
     
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  2. coolgi3000

    coolgi3000 Logician of the gods

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    What if there was a policy where the player caught duping is given a warning first and then watched for a few days. And if they are still duping then they get a ban, the "warning" could even be like a 1 day long ban. That way people still are discouraged from cheating but they are not just out of Mym for ever because of one slip up.[DOUBLEPOST=1456404569][/DOUBLEPOST]I realize this would be difficult to pull off but if we could find a plugin to do it than I think it would be well worth it.
    And of course this would also fix the innocent person loosing their progress problem.(no matter how rare it is)
     
  3. Slind

    Slind Founder

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    That is way too light. Duping is one of the most serious things regarding a server, we can't take this any way lightly.

    Think about insider trading giving you a warning only...
     
  4. coolgi3000

    coolgi3000 Logician of the gods

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    It depends on how serious the offense is. If they just dupe like 4 wither skull because they want to skip the grind, that's not as bad as duping thousands of diamonds and nether stars and selling them on the market.
    If someone is caught with drugs they may face a year or so in prison but if they are caught selling drugs In a large scale operation then they would get a much heavier punishment.
     
  5. LucidTheStick

    LucidTheStick Well-Known Member

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    Once duping is discovered it's a perma ban, that they can appeal. We treat them all equally as we can't monitor them. When the appeal we look at the impact on the community if we allow them back.
     
  6. coolgi3000

    coolgi3000 Logician of the gods

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    But answer this, if it weren't for the economy of the server that would be affected, then why would you anyone care if someone is duping or not as long as their not affecting the rest of the community?

    Edit
    I should add I do not mean any disrespect to anybody that I am talking to. I simply think this is a very interesting subject to think about.
     
  7. Snowfoxs

    Snowfoxs Well-Known Member

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    I am very much against it, regardless of the intentions, as even if the economy wasn't affected, a duper would still have the potential to give endgame items out to other players, which can be difficult to track. Dupers play the server long and hard for a few days, and then their activity drops, because they've lost interest in the game because of their cheating. And, not only am I against it, its against the rules. It'll never be allowed here, because it ruins the game for the duper, and potentially other players.

    If someone feels they need to cheat items, there's a singleplayer option in all of the packs that will let them ruin the game until their heart's content without hurting other players.
     
  8. coolgi3000

    coolgi3000 Logician of the gods

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    Which is exactly the point of my signature. If people knew what they wanted then this would not be an issue. But sadly as it is now if people get a chance to cheat on a server that does not allow cheating, than 90% of the time that will if they think they will not be caught. And if they do get away with it then it ruins the game for them and sometimes others too. And as for your example of someone giving items to others, again if people knew what they wanted, They would know that accepting an end game item for free. Even if it was gained honestly will usually ruin the game for them.
     
  9. SirStudMuffin

    SirStudMuffin Well-Known Member

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    Trust me it's daily
     
  10. Slind

    Slind Founder

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    ohh, wow.
     
  11. SirStudMuffin

    SirStudMuffin Well-Known Member

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    Which is a good thing, dont you dare disable it ;)
     
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  12. johnfg10

    johnfg10 Well-Known Member

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    i would hope slind knows tbh lol its his and sirwills network
     
  13. Arcanuo

    Arcanuo Old School Poster

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    The way I view team member duping is the follow; if you are an active player, you should be able to gauge the fact that a fellow team member is duping, having three nether stars the night earlier and no wither farm, waking up to your base filled with them. You can tell, not reporting them, you run the risk.

    A common response could be;
    "How was I supposed to know he would dupe, I didn't want to report him because we became friends! Ban Arcanuo for bad stance! Haxxxxxs!

    You took the risk teaming up with a player, after a bad experience, I'm careful with who I team up with. With the exception of ferrettomato, I only team up with MyM players that I've interacted with and that have been around for awhile. It might sound elitist, not teaming with new players, but at least I know I won"t run into these issues.
     
  14. HomesliceMain

    HomesliceMain Well-Known Member

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    If you can't play fairly don't play at all
     
  15. johnfg10

    johnfg10 Well-Known Member

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    yep basicly but plz dont blame the team for all the things
     
  16. coolgi3000

    coolgi3000 Logician of the gods

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    I hope it's not disabled. I'm thinking about buying a rank soon. Might not be as worth it if he disables it.
     
  17. King_Cronus

    King_Cronus Well-Known Member

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    They way i see it is as the rules stand now they are unfair to some extent i believe the person who dupes should server the punishment "perm" ban and the rest of the team members perhaps a shorter ban of 2-4 weeks for being involved this way it would teach them although this is my opinion

    i still belive they should not be duping at any point if they dont want to play the game fairly then simply "leave" as it is unfair to the rest of us

    Instructions for people who want to dupe

    1: Press esc in-game
    2:Move your mouse over to the top right corner
    3: Press the Red "x"
    4:now turn your pc/laptop off
     
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  18. ben_mkiv

    ben_mkiv Well-Known Member

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    why should they ban someone who didn't break the rules? that doesn't make any sense at all.

    it was about removing stuff of team-members because they potentially got access to or used duped items.

    i also don't team with low rank players, but you can't team without risk.
    the person who duped few weeks ago allready was higher rank and spent >3days of playtime on the server.
     
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  19. coolgi3000

    coolgi3000 Logician of the gods

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    Well the thing is (in my opinion) the only way that it is unfair for the rest of us is because it unbalances the market. (and PvP servers but we don't have many of those) And then its only unfair for those who want to sell something that is unbalanced because of a duper.
     
  20. profrags

    profrags Well-Known Member

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    Dude, that's some horrible help -.- you just made me close out my web browser, how rude!
     
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