Decided Against In-game chat calculator for all servers

Discussion in 'Archive (Suggestion and Feedback)' started by kamild_, Apr 9, 2016.

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  1. kamild_

    kamild_ Well-Known Member

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    Having such plugin installed would be a very quick, useful and handy way to do different calculations - faster than any other method (Windows Calculator, the actual calculator/phone etc).
    This plugin has many different operations but I don't know if it will work on 1.7.10: ChatCalculator - Bukkit

    What do you think?
     
  2. johnfg10

    johnfg10 Well-Known Member

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    ok i see what u mean but is this really needed does it really take people that long to grab your phone or open windows calculator?
    and this i would guess could cause a bit of lag which is not strictly needed
     
  3. King_Cronus

    King_Cronus Well-Known Member

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    Just ask in the chat I am sure someone will tell u what the answer is
     
  4. kamild_

    kamild_ Well-Known Member

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    Windows Calculator is not convenient for people who play in fullscreen mode. And your phone might not be always available (eg. it's charging or you might be watching YouTube on it while playing...).
    I highly doubt that such plugin will produce any lag at all. That's why I think adding it won't cause any problems but might solve some instead.

    I'm not talking about simple calculations like 5 * 12 but about multiplying or dividing bigger numbers, which most people can't calculate in their heads. And players can get mad at you when you keep asking them things - we all got our things to do ;)
     
  5. johnfg10

    johnfg10 Well-Known Member

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    well personally i think it is completely and utterly pointless basicly it will save u what 1 min and this is just more complication and more stuff the server needs to do
     
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  6. King_Cronus

    King_Cronus Well-Known Member

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    Just use Google type ur question in
     
  7. kamild_

    kamild_ Well-Known Member

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    How is it more complicated? :O
    There will be close to no extra CPU usage for the server, even if everyone was using it extensively - it's just a number calculator...
     
  8. johnfg10

    johnfg10 Well-Known Member

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    well currently we dont have it after it will so more complex
    ye depends on what u are doing to do lets say u do some stupid maths which uses alot of lag for example what is the sqaure root of 103902939804830328940283894832111991
     
  9. julio1237878

    julio1237878 Game enthusiastic

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    You can't get to the conclusion that something will cause lag without even trying it o_O
     
  10. johnfg10

    johnfg10 Well-Known Member

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    i just know someone will do somthing stupid and will cause lag it ppl do that stuff
     
  11. Varrili

    Varrili Well-Known Member

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    I think this would be a great idea. What you should do is add a pole so people can vote if they want this to be a thing or not.
     
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    RomaDaddy Well-Known Member

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    so its a mod for people who cant be bothered to alt+tab out of fullscreen for the 10 sec they need to use the calc...?
    seems utterly pointless to me.
     
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  13. johnfg10

    johnfg10 Well-Known Member

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    actuly if u really want this u might be better looking at a client side mod and getting it authed on the server hmm might work on that actuly ;p
     
  14. mrminesheeps

    mrminesheeps Helper

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    yeah tbh, i know alot of people and alot of people don't use fullscreen. it's more a hindering, as nice as it is to not have all these other things showing, it still hinders your ability to use things. *ahem*calculator*ahem* so if you can't spend 10 seconds, then whoever you might be buying from must be really impatient.
     
  15. kamild_

    kamild_ Well-Known Member

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    I had this plugin running on my server over a year ago. Despite all of my efforts of trying to cause lag by calculations (like operations on the biggest numbers possible, for example), I failed. And it was also a modpack, on a way worse CPU than MyM servers are running on.

    It's possible to add a command cooldown for extra protection (there's even a plugin for that). But the global anti-flooding mechanism should be already enough.

    You guys are right but you simply haven't had an occasion to play on a server with such a plugin. Give it a try, let's have it installed on MyM servers and if it doesn't cause any extra issues, just let it run. Let players know about this command and let them see.
    You can easily get used to using a calculator with just a few keystrokes, rather than getting out of the game to calculate something and then keep coming back to the game, back and forth.
     
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  16. johnfg10

    johnfg10 Well-Known Member

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    the point is if everyone does this i want one that makes text documents for me i also want one that does this that and the next thing the point we are trying to make is basicly this is for people that dont have the 10 or 20 seconds to go to windows calculator or grab there phone i think this would be better as a client side mod as that would be alot less work for staff :)
     
  17. kamild_

    kamild_ Well-Known Member

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    This will not happen. There are other much more "convenient" plugins already on the server, like the universal portal for many dimensions, and I don't see anybody asking for "free dimension unlocks" or anything like that. Do you?

    Installing such a simple plugin on a single server is just a matter of few minutes. Checking if it works on multiple servers with multiple game versions running will take more time, sure. It's still worth a try, it's not like it will take an entire day to deploy this plugin on all the servers...
    A client side mod? So rather than letting everybody use this command immediatelly by installing a plugin, we should encourage every player to install an extra mod by themselves? Doesn't sound any better for me :p
     
  18. chugga_fan

    chugga_fan ME 4M storage cell of knowledge, all the time

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    In this case the plugin would not actually do much damage to the server, BUT, the RAM involved for some of the larger operations will put a heavy stress on the server, as the JVM is NOT good at handling its garbage collection, so i don't think the strain will hurt CPU (it's only basic operations and some trig) but RAM, *snort* if someone tries to kill the server with it, it'd definitely be possible if you knew just what operation (10^(10^100) would possibly crash the server, looking at their github), they don't handle numbers very well it seems, so i vote no only for server safety nets
     
  19. johnfg10

    johnfg10 Well-Known Member

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    he knows about pointless maths systems :p
     
  20. Arcanuo

    Arcanuo Old School Poster

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    I don't feel this is needed, while useful it's not needed, the staff resources for setup/maintain lent could go to more profitable endeavours.
     

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