The future of MyM is vague

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  1. mrminesheeps

    mrminesheeps Helper

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    On a scale of 1/10, how would I rate the Irony?
    IT'S OVER 9000. LITERALLY.
     
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  2. paplaukes

    paplaukes Well-Known Member

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    Thank you, BookerTheGeek, that clears it up, blacklist would be bad enough.

    It's a shame. I can understand MS position about pay to win, to a point - a friend who played here thought highest tiers are crazy. Still, what they're doing leads to less servers/players. Will wait and see what happens. One thing for sure, not getting a 'realms' server ever.
     
  3. The_Icy_One

    The_Icy_One Procrastinates by doing work

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    There are 13 pages of replies to this thread, that's not really feasible for somebody who hasn't already been reading.
     
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  4. coolgi3000

    coolgi3000 Logician of the gods

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    The main thing people are not understanding is that making something obtainable in game without paying does not mean that you can sell it for real money. People have this notion that if MYM adds donor perks for myms they can keep selling the normal donor perks, or that because angel rings are obtainable ingame they can sell /fly. and that is simply not true. The only thing we can legally sell for real money is cosmetics.
     
  5. Rohen

    Rohen The beemaster

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    The problem is that guideline documents contradict each other. One says you CAN do it if it can be gotten by everyone, others say you can't.
     
  6. Xx_Canadian_xX

    Xx_Canadian_xX Well-Known Member

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    Indeed these documents are outdated and need revision, they basically tried to put a "one size fits all" concept together that just doesn't work. They allow large networks to break EULA while they punish others that are not so large.
     
  7. coolgi3000

    coolgi3000 Logician of the gods

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    Would you mind showing me where it says that? The closest thing I can find only says:
    But after reading that carefully you can see that it does not say that they can be sold if it is obtainable otherwise, that only covers people who already bought the perks before they were disallowed.
    Is there another document somewhere else that I am not seeing?
     
  8. Rohen

    Rohen The beemaster

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    Oh well. : P
     
  9. BookerTheGeek

    BookerTheGeek Patron Tier 3

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    Not exactly correct.
    • MyM is not allowed to sell me diamonds for real world cash.
    • MyM can give everybody diamonds if we reach a donation goal

    As for the other point... Slind please correct me if I am wrong...
    • Donator perks are not allowed to be sold.
    • Donators who already paid for them can keep them as long as everybody on the server also has access to those perks
    So for example, I have god mode. When the changes take place, either everybody has god or I loose it.
     
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    lryanle Well-Known Member

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    Some points wrong with that, here is a quick refresher:
     
  11. Aidoneus

    Aidoneus Director Booster

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    From your post, this is all correct depending on what you mean by Donator perks that is. As I know you said a while back that only cosmetics were the only thing that players could donate for. Meaning that you know what is right and wrong for Donator perks.

    As you said before Booker, I do not like the idea of Loopholes. This could really come back to bite us later on. If Mojang doesn't like our changes, they could simply deny us. Better to not give them a reason for putting us on the Blacklist.
     
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    i can't understand mojang, i mean why they are doing this.

    maybe iam wrong but its your own decision to play on a server with donator perks and if you don't accept this you can look for another.

    and its not pay to win because there is no contest or something.

    and here is another shocker:

    if iam right the servers locatet in germany (or was, or iam think about another one) gambling can be forbidden (i hear something about luckgame and investigation by lootboxes or something that means games that offer a "buy an unknown box" can be restrictet to 18+((not confirmed!)))
     
  13. lryanle

    lryanle Well-Known Member

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    Ok, so here we go:
    1. Mojang is making P2W no longer in hopes of clearing way for Realms, Marketplace, and a cleaner environment for advertisers to plant roots in.
    2. And no, that's the reason why Mojang put this into place. They wanted all nonpaying users to have an equal stance as paying users.
    3. P2W is if you pay money to have an advantage over other players
    4. The server is located in Germany, but is a private entity with an EULA. The gambling chances doesn't apply here.
     
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  14. Nuclear696

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    okay i throw an idea in:

    what about recreate MYM as a club or something. that is not commercial
     
  15. mrminesheeps

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    (Facepalm)

    We would still need a source of income to fund servers, m8.
     
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    i didn't say a free for all club ..

    edit: error in translation and understanding my own language ... sorry

    edit2: undestand commercial not as buissnes. i understand it as open for all, not private
     
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  17. lryanle

    lryanle Well-Known Member

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    If you need to, speak in German, we have quite a few Germans here, and we can translate for you.
     
  18. Dionysus777

    Dionysus777 Well-Known Member

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    Is it possible to sell cosmetics that have properties such as flying? I know it would require additional modding but hows that for an idea?
     
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    lryanle Well-Known Member

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    Ask yourself this, "Does this give me an advantage over other players?" If so, then yes, it's not allowed. Also, that statement was an oxymoron. ;)

    Kind regards,
    Ryan
     
  20. Decnav

    Decnav Proud member of the VRMasterRace Patron Tier 2

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    Basically, if the items does something other than look good, its not allowed. Yea the MoGang are trying to get you to use their store.
     
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