Not Possible Suggestion: Allow repeat answers like Yes and No in chatfilter

Hi all,

Something simple, yet stupid has been bugging me for a while now. There is this "Do not repeat the same or similar message(s)" thingy when you try to say something you allready said earlier. This also means if someone asks a question and you need to give the same answer twice (like no or yes) wont be allowed. Which is stupid and rather annoying.

Example:
"Hey do you have any oak wood?"
"No."
"Do you have any spruce wood then?
"No."
"Please do not post the same or similar message more than once."

Can you figure out a way to allow short repeat words or sentences? Added a poll for simple general interest overview.

 

I can cycle a few messages and spam them indefinitely.

I can't repeat the same message in /g if i missed and posted it in local.

Me: "Hello, Global! " (dammit)
Me: "/g Hello, Global! "
Server: "Please do not post the same or similar message more than once." (DAMMIT!)

 

Isn't the general idea of this to stop people spamming text? And isn't this also not enabled in whisper?

 

Yes, but typing in wrong chat or typing the same valid answer twice gets filtered. There is no intention of spam. This needs some slight rebalancing.

A few minutes ago, I had something like this:
"What is the best way to gain draconium dust from ore? Sag Mill?"
"Fortune it."
"What if you just put it in a smeltery?"
"Fortune it." (denied)
"Please do not post the same (or similar ..."

 

The chat filter is to stop continued spamming of words on our global and server chats if we were to enable the words 'Yes' & 'No' sorry to say but people can and most likely will use it to spam which would just cause players playing on our servers disturbance.

Possibly this idea is something our higher staff members would have to discuss and see if a outcome can be made or if it is going no further.

Have a great day / night!

- Monkey

 

How about allowing 2 instances of the same message? And if you do that, you can't send ANY messages in the following 10 seconds.

 

@deepcage Where is "Potato" poll?

Kind sir, thats a great idea - 2 same messages THEN "Please do not post the same or similar message more than twice."

I'm also frustrated when i explain something to someone and i wrote yes, then explain something new and cant repeat "yes" one more time but i need to use - yep, yup, correct etc.

 

This definitely annoys me more than the doubling up on simple answers - I'd guess that the script that checks for double messages runs before the script that pushes to global? Or perhaps the script that checks for double messages is nested. Could be wrong.

Love it

 

This system surely does stop spam in a way, it's quite easy to spam using different words also, if you look at it in that context though.
Allowing system answers yes/no is quite lenient considering the demand of the words used as a single.

 

I like this idea as I too have found it frustrating at times. Here's my input on possibilities of how we could go about this:

1) The spam filter should allow words like yes, no, thanks, lol, etc. to be repeated. If someone wanted to spam they would probably choose other words to spam, not to mention if a troll just really wanted to spam a word like "yes" then they would find a way.

2) As @Uthael_Killeanea mentioned, allow words and/or sentences to be used twice with a timer following. This would allow a player to reply twice if the first time was mistakenly posted wrong, for example, posting in casual instead of global or posting in party chat instead of casual (I do this all the time lol!). This is hardly spam and has more benefits than cons.

3) Allow words like yes, no, lol, etc to be repeated by the same player IF followed by another player's response.
For example (allow this):
Tipsied: Deepcage, are you there?
Deepcage: yes
Tipsied: do you still need help?
Deepcage: yes
Tipsied: With the power plant?
Deepcage: yes
Tipsied: in this area?
Deepcage: yes

However, do NOT allow this example:
Tipsied: Deepcage, are you there?
Deepcage: yes
Deepcage: yes
Deepcage: yes

Although this last one could open up more possibilities for exploiting, I still believe the pros outweigh the cons.

 

Also probably another suggestion to put a timer/timeout on repeat messages. say you cant repeat the same sentence or word within 5 secs of another. Or any other low enough time to allow someone else to post a question in between. And i agree with tipsied that multiple repeat words without input from others should be disallowed.

Then again you could also put an auto-kick on spammed messages. Say 3 or more repeat sentences earns you a 10 minute ban from the server. Each time you do it, the ban gets exponentially longer until it results in a permaban.

 

Maybe make it 5, 3 seems a little close for comfort

 

Also if you go with the ban idea, it would better to have a warning as well as the ban.

e.g.
Player: yes
Player: yes
Player: yes

Server: If you repeat the word "yes" once more within 10 seconds you will be temporarily banned from the server
Player: yes

Server: Player has been kicked/banned.

 

It kicks you now if you are spamming by sending too many lines as it is, a ban would be excessive and cause undo headaches when a player does something wrong like griefing, we'd now have to check and double check those fifteen bans they had for spamming.

 

No bans. Just kicks and warnings. Too many warnings = moderator notified for a potential mute (duration as he/she sees fit).

Sometimes a poor client connection or server lag might be the cause for "spam".

Edit: now that I'm more awake, I see that this post is somewhat redundant. But I can't find a way to delete it.

 

I have run into this before but never really worried about it, I like to mix up my repeat answers anyway (like no nope nah naw na and nada) but I do see the need for it.

 

Bumping topic since it seems like this is being forgotten. Would love staff reactions on this.

Dang i forgot im staff now, but yea, other staff is what i meant

 

Or instead of just replying with the same one word, you can vary it by adding words or using slightly different words.

Tipsied: Deepcage, are you there?
Deepcage: yes
Tipsied: do you still need help?
Deepcage: yeah
Tipsied: With the power plant?
Deepcage: yes that
Tipsied: in this area?
Deepcage: ya

 

Sometimes you'll get "too similar to last message".

 

I took a look over this, and as Kaze said, it is kinda unnecessary. You could always not reply with the exact same message. This is something that isn't really worth the trouble of adding (since I have been staff I have never seen anyone get kicked for saying the same thing over and over, or warned not to.)