Decided Against Increase the forced Restarts or a /vote restart on FTB infinity Expert

Very often on the server at FTB infinity expert we run into the problem with low tps because of some random memory leak (Since u have to use every single item in the game to progress) and that can be quite disturbing to sit and wait for either admins to restart the server or wait for it to crash because of memory leak crash.
Since we are a small community that enjoys playing on the FTB infinity expert mode i recommend adding these features as some time people cant even join to try the server because of the time out window.

I really like the server and would love to see any of these implemented, preferably /vote for the restart as one can do it when they are online alone withoout anyones consent and will increase the chances people can join!

Best regards Mauri567

 

#ResetInfinity (but only maps, leave the playerdata intact, very same idea like the Normal)

 

Its not really the same thing in normal as in expert, here the whole progression system takes years before u can move to like last millenium, and the whole progression part lies in the stuff u build, so reseting the world in Expertmode would kill aloot of bases and players progression.

 

Not to mention there's far more machinery in expert mode.

 

Restarting more often doesn't solve anything

 

Im sorry to say but it does, ur argument is invalid as everytime the restart happends the tps goes up to 20 and the server is playable again.

 

till some1's base starts laggin gain bc lying down entities and items or unkilled mobs

 

The problem is that a restart just hides the underlying issue and it is just a temporary fix.

 

something like treating symptoms not causes?

I think the best solution i can come up with is to disable ALL OFFLINE chunkloaders - so if server gets laggy its your fault shaggy for loading lagging machines. Aido wont ask for telling whos online when server starts to lag out without reason.

 

Hm... Let me try to explain why your request, while fine on the surface, is not in the actual best interests of the server.

1. As @Sandstroem pointed out, restarting the server does not actually fix the underlying issue. It just treats the symptoms and not the cause of the issue.
2. We actually need to let the server lag. This is so an admin can look through the logs on the back end and find out what is causing the lag.
   • Better still if one was in game playing this pack so they could run in game commands to help locate the issue.
3. It is even better if it is a particular block causing the lag and maybe a crash as that will show up in the crash-report. Thereby making it easier to remove said block.

That all being said, none of that helps you in game. So... What to do?

1. Maybe we could get some staff to start playing on Infinity Expert. So they can help diagnose the issue in real time.
2. Make sure you ( @mauri567 ) are in the discord, and let staff know when TPS drops below 15
   • Staff, you need to be able to get onto IE and diagnose the issue when it is brought up and not hours later.
3. Keep track of who logs on right before TPS tanks, for cases of bases that are not offline chunk loaded.
4. We could do a ONE TIME removal of all chunk loaders, which would keep the offline chunk loaded bases that are lagging the server unloaded with a message in game explaining why they were removed. This would help the world playability until the actual issue is fixed.

Maybe we could get @Aidoneus or another admin to weigh in on the conversation? (Love you buddy. Sorry to call you out like this)

 

Feel free to forward me the dumps and I'll see what I can see if you want.

 

As i like to play this game there is nothing preventing me from paying for my own server and keeping it up for the same cost as patron where i could restart it will, the annoying thing is not only that the server lags, its also the fact that we need to depend on admins who might not have time to restart it, 1 small mistake and we might need to wait for 2-3 hours until its playable again, and for u to fix the server might take a few weeks, so this might be a patch-up for the real issue, but im a realist and people dont like to play and will stop if u dont do these patch-ups.

 

/vote restart and similar systems have been tried on the network a handful of times before, and always without fail led to disastrous results. Every time what ends up happening is the second a server dips below 20 tps for whatever reason and no matter for how long, or if the server hitches for a literal second, players will spam the ever loving crap out of that command and what you are going to end up with is a server that spends more time restarting than it spends online. And variations have also been tried, for example not allowing the command to be used x amount of time after a restart, which leads to the server being restarted every single time x amount of time after a restart, even if there is no actual problem happening.

 

Then i guess you, my good sir, have seen the amount of players on the FTB infinity expert server? At most we had 6 players online at the same time, otherwise we are about 1-4 players at most, but that is on the weekends, during the weekdays we are about 0-2 players online unless the tps is at 3, then noone is online.
Having a vote /restart on only the expert server would help the small community that plays there and could also make it easier for new players to join as they dont need to join at specific times when server tps is good, they could join when its laggy and noone is online and do a /vote restart, because during this week, atleast 6 new faces has joined only to leave because of the TPS.

 

FTB Infinity expert has ALWAYS had a lot of problems. I once heard that one of the mod authors actually recommended a 16Gig memory allotment to run the Expert pack. This was years ago but because of the memory hole in JAVA , it is almost needed. I don't play that pack anymore because of the unresolved JAVA leak. It is so bad that it has jammed op a small 64 Gig server. I do not recommend this pack because of the memory leak. Unfortunately, the mod authors have never really addressed the memory leak and I will not play that pack. Regular Infinity does play out hard, but it takes quite a while to reach that stage.

 

True. This was an unqualified test to see exactly what Java could do if left unchecked. The system was new at the time with no one other the server admin on. Expert was allowed to run. this continued for 4 days before a leak developed. This leak quickly grew to eat up the complete 64 gig that was allowed for the server. Time? 17 days, 18 hours 22 minuets and 18 seconds. This was reported to the mod author's who worked on it for over a month before they said it was ready to go back into the program list of FTB. All said... the pack is not worth the headache that it gives staff, because staff has to be in monitor mode on the server at all times and it just is not worth it.