Market question/suggestion

Hi there, I've been looking at the end game item list for selling, and looked around the forum for more info on what can be sold from the Thaumcraft pack specifically. I saw it says you can't sell anything you need research to make unless it's common dungeon loot. The other threads seemed to be less productive and was mostly a huge argument between everyone. I would like to ask if i can sell resources from thaumcraft, say I crystalized some essentia, or bottled it up. This way you can sell more than a small portion of what you do in thaumcraft without granting people leaps and bounds in progression. I await your feedback on this. Forgot to mention I play on TDT if it matters.

 

who are you? magish? it's almost like you're channeling him when asking that question, but ofc you can sell the essentia, in phials, you just can't sell the items that are made from said essentia

 

From the Why List Endgame Items? post (Why list endgame items? | MineYourMind Community)

You are allowed to sell endgame items under one condition:
That the other player is equipped and able (progressed into the mod at least 75%) to produce this item on their own.
It bears repeating that if you do feel the need to sell an endgame item, it is not allowed on the market and you are not allowed to advertise it in the public chat.

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You are able to sell these items to people that already have the knowledge to obtain them, just not in open market. With essentia only those that are into Thaumcraft would want to buy them anyway, just approach those who're doing thaumcraft and ask them.

 

Not arguing the end game item selling rule. I read that thread with Magish and it wasn't helpful in anyway. I really just wanted to make sure I wasn't breaking any rules by doing this, asked the mods and they told me to put a thread on the forum. More specifically what can and can't be sold to others from Thaumcraft. I just want to be informed and not a rule breaker.

 

don't worry, you're not doing what magish was doing (thank goodness, he was annoying) the lists should be clear enough, essentia (technically) is in items, so you're (technically) not breaking any rules by selling it, as essentia is obtainable in many ways my good friend

 

Um... no.

Essentia is in no way obtainable without thaumcraft research, of some sort.

You are NOT allowed to sell essentia as it requires thaumcraft research to make.

 

this requires extremely basic thaumcraft research, usually the 5th or 6th thing that you research if you're going for a fast start or the 10th or 12th if you're not, as it's so early on, i think it's safe to say that you are allowed to sell it, and again, (technically) very basic items are the essentia itsself, so, (technically) it can't be disallowed, but that would be up to a senior moderator or up for such a statement

 

I do believe the standing rule for thaumcraft is that if it requires research, you can't sell it.[DOUBLEPOST=1434578168][/DOUBLEPOST]Iron capped wand? Sure
deconstruction table? Nope.

 

as i see the blanket rule, it still shouldn't apply to basic items, cauldrons require research, sure, you get it instantly as you open the thaumonomicon, but you still need the research, by this logic you can't sell something that takes 7 pieces of iron no vis and the most basic wand concieved, which is why, i, personally would allow the most basic of items from thaumcraft

 

And once again, YOU are not staff, and don't make rules. But then again neither am I.

I would wait for an actuall staff member to comment.

 

This is exactly why I asked. Due to the technicality of the Thaumcraft rule everything requires some research. It would seem we await a higher up.

 

I would say that it depends on the perspective of those judging whether it is endgame or not, in my opinion something is not endgame if it is easily accessible within 1 hour of starting, so in this regard I would say that the primal aspects are fine, but some other things(such as taint) should not be sold via market.

 

alpha, essentia is within the items whether you scan it or not, so i don't get what you just said, so...

 

I would live to hear how, without ANY Thaumcraft research you can get a vial of essential or the crystallized essence.

 

it exists within the items, the items contain it, you can't get the vial with it inside or the essence, but it is still there just like if you take my arms off and say i never had any arms, you'd be wrong, the arms existed at some point and therefore are still existant, but in that case you'd say i had arms

 

I'm pretty sure if we start looking for loopholes around rules that just makes us more like lawyers, and no one wants that. For now we should go with don't do it and wait for someone to respond.

 

@Korbadin most likely the smartest move.

@chugga_fan ok meg.

 

*punches you over the internet, thats not my name*

 

Watch some family guy, yes it is.

Muahahah

 

wait, i accidentally quoted family guy?