Remove Donator Kits from the endgame lists.

Discussion in 'Archive (Suggestion and Feedback)' started by SilentBane, Aug 9, 2015.

  1. SilentBane

    SilentBane Well-Known Member

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    I would like to suggest removing the donator kits from the endgame item list. The main reason is that I can just open all of my kits and "piece them out" on the market without any repercussions. Why can I not just sell the entire kit as 1 whole piece?
     
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  2. ItsNora_

    ItsNora_ Names not actually Noah Booster

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    As to my my knowledge, Donator kits can only be opened by Donators. But for the items within the kits I see no reason why they cannot be sold. None of them are entirely TOO OP
     
  3. Darkcrafter92

    Darkcrafter92 Well-Known Member

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    So I guess it really shouldn't be in the end game list ^^

    PS: what if it's sold in a strongbox etc..., is ins't the "kit" anymore but "a pack of items" ;)
     
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  4. BetaPetey

    BetaPetey Administrator Booster

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    I agree with this if non donator's are able to open the donator kits then why not take them off the list since you can just open them and sell them piece by piece like silent said.
     
  5. LucidTheStick

    LucidTheStick Well-Known Member

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    Because now you have to list them in multiple pieces. I dislike the kits being on the market IMHO
     
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  6. chaosblad3

    chaosblad3 Very Well-Known Member

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    It is precisely so you have to sell the items individually that they are on the list in the first place, so it actually takes at least a little bit of effort on the part of the donor to convert the free items you get from the kits into myms you can use for whatever else.. otherwise we might as well add a /liquidate command that puts the kit on cooldown and just gives you straight myms to begin with in return for not redeeming the kit itself for that day e.g.
    /liquidate <kitname> = +100myms
    /liquidate <kitname>plus = +200myms

    Edit: tbh I actually rather like my idea the more i think about it ;) @Founder what say you?
    At tier 5 that would be 100*3+200*2 = 700mym per day, though feel free to tweak the numbers if you think that is too much..?
     
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  7. SilentBane

    SilentBane Well-Known Member

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    I 1000% support this solution to the excessive kits situation.
     
  8. sporefreak

    sporefreak Well-Known Member

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    700 per day is a lot and will destroy the economy (or what's left of it)
    I disagree with direct conversion to Myms
    If you want Myms that bad vote or take the time to sell them individually.
     
  9. BookerTheGeek

    BookerTheGeek Patron Tier 3

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    Cut the MyM's so a tier 5 donor receives the same amount they would get for voting. THEN it will be almost perfect
     
  10. MaelstromPhoenix

    MaelstromPhoenix Well-Known Member

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    I don't think that 700 mym is that much. The individual items can definitely be sold for more than that and this is giving a lower price for convenience. Also this means that the kit items won't be clogging up the market because at some point the armor and tool kits become irrelevant and would just be sold.
     
  11. chaosblad3

    chaosblad3 Very Well-Known Member

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    Yeah 100 was just the first number that popped into my head, i would suggest around 50 base then, cause you get 60 per vote * 5 votes per day = 300, and 50*3+100*2 would be 350 so that would give you a potential daily total of 650 from votes and kit liquidations combined.

    Then again technically if you don't need them you can sell the 100cb you get from voting on claim enabled servers too at 1:1 for a potential extra 500myms per day so it's really already 800 per day from voting alone in some cases!

    I don't know what server it is you play on, but how "destroyed" the market is on any given server can vary significantly depending on how sensible the players on that server are at setting prices, nonetheless I'd say having a dozen or so donors on a server who have all gotten to midgame+ and no longer need their fortune I diamond tools every day and just start dumping them on the market for the sake of it is just as bad as people ending up with "too much money" and prices for some things getting a bit inflated as a result.
     
  12. Slind

    Slind Founder

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    How much value do those kits have for you compared to the other perks?
     
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    tyler489 Well-Known Member

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    tbh after 2-3 weeks i don't even use my kits as i don't need them because by then i have automated everything that i would need
     
  14. sporefreak

    sporefreak Well-Known Member

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    While it would be cool to have a reason to collect kits daily i dont think they should turn directly into Myms
    Im not sure what else could be done with them.
    I wont shoot down every comment this will probably be the last post i make on this topic
     
  15. BookerTheGeek

    BookerTheGeek Patron Tier 3

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    That. Althou I still use the mobdrops just because ghast tears are a pain.
     
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    Maybe have regular kits be work 60 and op ones worth 100 as even at tier 5 it's only 380 a day and if you want more you could sell the items in the market
     
  17. Slind

    Slind Founder

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    I'll be honest with you. I'm not a fan of turning them into mym's directly. There is a reason why we don't give MyM's with the ranks and why they are not being sold for credits..
    Something I was thinking about is to implement some sort of tokens. You would get those from voting and for daily logins (based on the rank). Those could be spent for the basic kits and claim blocks. So if you don't need any you can keep them for the next server you join.
     
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  18. chaosblad3

    chaosblad3 Very Well-Known Member

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    What about indirectly then?

    I don't know if you've ever considered this on not but since donors start with bonus claimblocks on all claim enabled servers then under the current system they can immediately sell some of those bonus claimblocks if they don't need all of them for a big claim right away, and you can buy claimblocks with credits and then sell them for myms in just one extra step too..

    Unless you're going to disabled /sellclaimblocks (which would mean groups of players couldn't sell their claimblocks to pool them onto one player to make a large joint claim any more) then even if you switched to this token system (which i still think is a good idea btw) then people would still be able to convert them to myms if they really wanted to by just using the tokens for claimblocks and then selling those.
     
  19. BladeRavinger

    BladeRavinger New Member

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    my personal view is donator kits are for donors, they shouldn't be sold as whole or even part. that kit if for the donor, because that person has supported the MYM network, and all in, if you dont need your tools or armor kit today, why are you claiming it, if you cant find a use for the content of a kit, designed to help 'speed up' game play for you, dont claim it
     
  20. chaosblad3

    chaosblad3 Very Well-Known Member

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    Well that's the thing though, they are finding a use for the kit it's just that that use is simply as a commodity they can sell for myms which they can then use for something else that they actually need.
     
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