Implemented Free UU-Matter & Spoiling

Hi Mods,

Can you do something about players now giving away free infinite uu matter before it ruins the economy? perhaps making it a ban-able offense?

 

you are allowed to give out free stuff ya know nothing in the rules against it, ushc as the public lava tank

 

You're right chugga why not public diamonds and bedrock too?

 

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that's been (practicly) already done so too late

 

Yeah by providing free UU, an end game item. Your justification seems to be "since I've done something that ruins the economy to a certain degree, its totally cool to ruin it further" hmmmm.... So what you're saying is that you've already done it so you've provided your own self with a fait accompli?

 

lol USING UU is very hard and i can't produce while i'm offline so i'm not 100% ruining the eco at all in fact i'm helping people get resources while their in late game and they have a scannner pattern storage and replicator and not everyone knows how to make reinforced stone ok so it's hard to USE the uu which moots the "economy ruining"

 

it's me that he's complaining about, like always

 

Chugga believe it or not I actually don't dislike you; I dislike you seeming to be involved in server crashes, I dislike you making a ton of stuff that you cant use and then giving it away, I dislike the fact that you don't attempt to reduce the consequences of your actions. I *know* my hydrokinetics cause server lag which is why I'm trying to gate them so they only come online to recharge batteries. I *know* my harvestors cause server lag which is why I'm trying to time them with a player detector so they only run when I'm around it. The point is that I actually try to be considerate of the fact that I'm not the only person on the server.

 

and yet you seem to be going OUT to complain about me, i KNOW what my base does and poeple who argeed with you before have said oh look we're around 20 tps and chugga's on that must mean it ISN'T HIM ALONE which is the truth so sorry for "causing all the crashes" and "causing the tps to go down" i mean really? blaming me for everything because i have a "big" base? That's just like sterotyping me for everything gone wrong. it's basicly #blameobama only on a serverwide scale and for less reasons

 

Wow, way to play the victim card. I never said it seemed to be you alone, it does however seem to drop by like 5 tps when u come on. When you were banned for 2 days the tps was pretty stable between 10-15; you come back and its between 2-10. Maybe its a coincidence but, those coincidences seem to happen *a lot* when you're on. That isn't even the point though in this case. The point is you're giving away UU matter! Even if it takes a machine to use UU you're still giving away something that's hard to make and on a mass scale. Where lag comes into play is the fact that you're producing energy for something that you don't intend to even use- YOU ARE GIVING IT AWAY! Maybe it doesn't contribute much more making that extra energy but it does contribute. Then there's the fact that you are using that stuff you made, at cost to the server's performance and just giving it away to anyone, further screwing up the gameplay by depressing the economy. You are creating a downside to create a downside. THERE IS NO POSITIVE ASPECT OF THIS BEHAVIOR. FULL STOP. The excuse that its a side effect of running your base is irrelevant, you can turn machines off or store the power for when you need it; you could direct power into zones that shut off so you can deactivate things when not in need. I have a big base, I've never seen your base; never once have I mentioned your base. You joke about "get ready for the lag spike" or "get ready for low tps" or "I can make a fusion reactor if I want too" and lets not forget "get ready for the crash!". This is why we single you out for it Chugga, not because you're like Obama(really dude?).

 

ok i used him for an example and btw it's not that hard to make -.- people DO produce it on mass scale and get ready for a crash? i only say crashhhh because i feel there is such a long stop in movement of server/player time that it is a crash and it's not hard to produce on a mass scale of which is the only reason i'd give it away, i mean really? it's not that hard to make a mass fabricator and the only real thing you're complaining about is UU which is not hard to make, i mean people have armys of solar panels for this and alot of people DO produce more than me so it's irrelivent about the economy ruining because it's also (as i stated) HARD TO USE THE STUFF making the "economy ruining" MOOT as i said BEFORE so thank you for reading (somewhat) [edit] wow this paragraph of mine is wayy to unflowing with the transitions

 

I did read what you said before, the point is that you were giving away something that *IS* difficult to make, so what if its also difficult to use? Let them make tons of panels then to make the UU to use in some other difficult thing. The point is that you're giving something hard to make away on a mass scale! It means that now all some random person has to do is make the machine to use it. Perhaps it may be non-trivial but its not even arguable that it lowers the barrier of entry into something a lot of people think is OP. You're literally making something OP easier to get. Why don't you just give out free duped stuff? Oh wait.... Anyway, the bottom line is that it cheapens the experience for people who actually you know, bothered to make there own stuff when you just give it away. And yes I know you were using #ObamaFails or whatever as an example; it is a good example in fact- of a strawman argument. Your strawman argument to make it look like I'm just victimizing you simply because of some trait you possess as in you're black or not a fan of the Green Bay Packers or some other totally random thing. My problem with you stems directly from your behavior which is directly under your control, don't try to turn this into a "mommy he's picking on me for no reason" argument.

 

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it's not that kind of argument at all this seems to be an argument over "oh hey look someone's giving out free stuff that can make things" yes i am giving it out for free but really? really? i mean UU matter is a tangible, hard to use item, and the machines to USE the stuff are 30x more expensive than the ones to MAKE it just look it up in NEI and then to make the stuff you want to make you HAVE TO HAVE IT FIRST which is a huge problem that also blocks it, then you need lots of EU and EU is hard to get, no matter what power gen system you have

 

So is it easier or harder with free UU?

 

(barely) easier the only thing that makes it easier is you don't have to craft (not exactly not have to) the mass fabricator which really all you need to craft is 4 diamonds.

 

And tons of power, and i presume it still uses scrap.

 

yes

 

People giving stuff away for free will regret it and wish they had that MyM with the plans in the near future, no need to continue this conversation.

Thank you for the report.