Late-Game Pech Source

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  1. The_Icy_One

    The_Icy_One Procrastinates by doing work

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    Ars Magica adds a spell to allow the summoning of any mob through the use of a filled Crystal Phylactery, and so perhaps a crafting recipe for a Pech-filled version of these could be added, for example using:

    B=Mana Bean
    P = Crystal Phylactery

    B B B
    B P B ---> Crystal Phylactery - Pech Forager - 100% filled
    B B B


    This would be difficult to obtain the resources for, and would realistically require the user to have automated dirt and stone sieving to be able to even craft the filled Phylactery. The user would then need to unlock the Summon component from Ars Magica, which is relatively late game, before they could even summon a single Pech.
    This would hopefully override any balancing issues with the Pechs, since anybody capable of obtaining one would not have much of an advantage from having it, except from the lovely dungeon loot that would become available to them.
     
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  2. sin_samsonsin

    sin_samsonsin New Member

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    I like this. Only problem I can see is people selling them fairly cheap once they can summon them att will


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  3. The_Icy_One

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    With the summon spell, a player can have a maximum of 3 summons at once. There are definitely ways around this, which I will not mention here to reduce risks of exploit, but even so, players capable of obtaining pech like this would be able to give out masses of other resources cheaply as well, as is the nature of SMP. It is simply a thing of hoping they don't.
     
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  4. Twilight_Dreamz

    Twilight_Dreamz New Member

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    I would suggest that rather then having this be a craftable recipe, make it a high level reward that you get from the ars magica quests, that way people earn it, and with the nether being the only way to trade, and with pvp being enabled, I don't see people just going there to give stuff away, not likely to happen, I for one don't want to be killed, and there are trolls in the nether that all they do is kill people, and you trolls know who you are.
     
  5. SirWill

    SirWill Founder

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    You can trust players on your island if you reached the nether and then you can trade.
     
  6. The_Icy_One

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    While I do like the idea of having the phylactery as a reward, it would be nonrenewable, at least to my knowledge, which does go slightly against the spirit of the Ex Nihilo side of Agrarian.
     
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  7. sin_samsonsin

    sin_samsonsin New Member

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    maybe add a quest in the thaumcraft part of HQM in that you have to submit full runic armour and a staff core of the primal. The reward would be the staff core back and a pech spawn egg.
     
  8. The_Icy_One

    The_Icy_One Procrastinates by doing work

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    I don't think there is actually a pech spawn egg in thaumcraft.
     
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    also pechs are still banned on all servers because u can dupe with them pretty easy.
     
  10. The_Icy_One

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    Pretty easy with the use of late-game resources, in the case of this pack. While it may not change the fact that there is a dupe glitch, it does at least mean that it is restricted to the end game when anything can be recreated, given a little time. I am also relatively certain that zombies and skeletons can be used for the same dupe glitch, as well as possibly the luggages from Open blocks and Thaumcraft.

    A possible solution for the dupe bug could be to block the collection of the pech in the (tool used for duping), thereby preventing the dupe glitch, while still leaving other options for pech production.
     
  11. Adam_Tice

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    I've recently finished the ars magica and Thamcraft quests. I have the perfect place where a phylactery with a pech in it would be acceptable. It'd be easy to add, and it'd be a great end game quest. I'd make the quest really challenging tho, even though it'd already be the last quest in the line if quests.
     
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    What if they can make it so you cannot spawn a pech on your Island untill the owner have compleated Said quest?


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    Or even carry a safarinet or any other mob-carrying device?


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  14. The_Icy_One

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    That would probably be impossible, simply due to the incompatibility between HQM and the server's plugins. I also feel that limiting mob carrying devices to only those that have completed certain quests would be a bad idea in general, especially for those who would prefer to focus on other quest series than the magic ones.
     
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    I say that the idea of having a pech is great another way of doing it is by having the crafting recipe more expensive like
    S G S
    G P G ---> Crystal Phylactery - Pech Forager - 100% filled
    S G S

    S-Silverwood sapling
    G-Greatwood sapling
    P-Phylactery

    Another way this could be approached is by adding a pech at spawn or another warp area to trade with for a certain amount of MyM for a certain amount of time
     
  16. Adam_Tice

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    The last quest in the Ars Magica line in "The Good Witch of the North" is giving you the abillity to spawn pechs :)
     
  17. The_Icy_One

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    Is it a reusable thing? I feel like there will be at least one person who makes the summon spell wrong and wastes the phylactery.
     
  18. sin_samsonsin

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    Try icy xD


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  19. The_Icy_One

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    The person wasting the phylactery will likely be me :3
     
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  20. Adam_Tice

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    No. Its singular. Don't mess it up I guess.
     

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