Building my pc need help

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  1. Adrianfish

    Adrianfish Well-Known Member

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    well the list that i have changed a bit the only thing i really am not sure of now is my video card but maybe if i can find a a cheeper monitor then i will upgrade my video card
     
  2. AlphaRue

    AlphaRue Egotistic Extremely Important Member

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    crossfire:
    pros:
    about 2.2x as fast as a single copy of that card
    more memory
    less load on the cards(degrade more slowly)[helps overclocking of them]
    cons:
    can cause slight stuttering, especially on older games, but this is rare
    more expensive when the time comes to upgrade them


    single:
    pros:
    cheaper to upgrade
    little chance of any stuttering


    cons:
    significantly lower performance

    r9

    Manufacturer

    XFX
    Part #
    R9-380P-4255
    Interface
    PCI-Express x16
    Chipset
    Radeon R9 380
    Memory Size
    4GB
    Memory Type
    GDDR5
    Core Clock
    990MHz
    TDP
    190 Watts
    Fan
    Yes
    SLI Support
    No
    CrossFire Support
    Yes
    Length
    234mm
    Supports Freesync
    Yes
    DVI-D Dual-Link
    1
    DVI-I Dual-Link
    1
    DisplayPort
    1
    HDMI
    1

    r7

    Manufacturer
    XFX
    Part #
    R7-240A-ELF4
    Interface
    PCI-Express x16
    Chipset
    Radeon R7 240
    Memory Size
    4GB
    Memory Type
    DDR3
    Core Clock
    730MHz
    TDP
    30 Watts
    Fan
    Yes
    SLI Support
    No
    CrossFire Support
    Yes
    Length
    175mm
    DVI-I Dual-Link
    1
    HDMI
    1
    VGA
    1
     
  3. cbrozak

    cbrozak Well-Known Member

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    Save 80 bucks to put somewhere else by using a motherboard like this: Motherboards | B85M-G | ASUS USA

    It's a great one, top 15 current choice, supports overclocking just as well and has better voltage fail-safes if you aren't super experienced with overclocking. Your GPU choice is the best one for the money, hands down. You will love it, especially the MSi Twin Frozr build o that chipset, it's the best one out there and can handle well over 10% over-clocking out of the box, and with the MSi software it makes it super easy. My only suggestion would be the grab a ~750w PSU. The 750ti needs ~400 at peak (with no overclock) Your processor is 95-120 and right there you are already pushing it. This Corsair is a great one and even saves you another couple bucks (It is the one I use).

    Source: Literally my daily job, building, troubleshooting and repairing computers.[DOUBLEPOST=1437137158][/DOUBLEPOST]To point out, with that ~120 bucks saved, you can put that into a 5th gen i7 which is a MASSIVE boost in CPU power.
     
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  4. RomaDaddy

    RomaDaddy Well-Known Member

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    in 2013 when I built my AMD computer I spent a whole lot less than what you are currently looking at with the intel build. Though I did have some SSD's that I didnt have to replace so that saved me some cash there.
    Here is my build


    and my case is RAIDMAX Agusta ATX-605BT Black/Titanium Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case (the money I saved in parts went here for looks XD)

    and like I said I had 3 120GB SSD's from my last build as well as a 1TB high performance hard drive from like 2011-2012 lol

    Keep in mind people, 2-3 years ago an I7 would have cost an arm and a leg lol
     
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    Adrianfish Well-Known Member

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    all of these new options time to change up my list now :D

    btw roma i love the power supply just because it glows :p
     
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    Adrianfish Well-Known Member

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    one question i got is with going with a higher wat on power supply does it got a chance to reck your pc?
     
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    RomaDaddy Well-Known Member

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    that just means I COULD add bigger and better things ( like upgraded crossfire Graphics cards) its not really telling you that it provides that much on a constant basis more than it is saying that it can handle that amount of load.
     
  9. Slind

    Slind Founder

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    Don't go with a no name power supply and don't spare money on it. If it breaks all the other parts are at risk.

    Edit: if you like to play the latest games within days/weeks of release go with nvidia. They push updates faster, collaborate more with game studios and are preferred by most game publishers.
     
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    And nvidia adds shadowplay, a free to use recording software. Just an extra bonus :p
     
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    Adrianfish Well-Known Member

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    The cpu is great. Do you plan on overlocking? If not you could consider server/enterprise hardware e.g. E3-1231v3.
    Similar performance per thread but twice as many logical cores due to hyperthreading.
    Our servers and I run the 1270v3 which is just a great cpu, but the 1271v3 comes with a little more cost and the slight performance boost isn't needed for gaming. If you would go this way the 4790k would be the better choice anyway as it is a lot faster and the fastest cpu (in terms of performance per logical core) on the public market atm.

    (1271 is the follow up on the 1270)

    Anyways, if gaming is +60% I would recommend you to go down with the pricing on all of the parts besides the power supply and invest towards a single 980.

    I would recommend this model, due to test results and nearly 0 complaints about issues with the card.
    GALAX GeForce GTX 980 SOC review - Introduction
    Review: Galax GeForce GTX 980 SOC - Graphics - HEXUS.net

    If it would be my setup I would get this card and save 100 on the cpu, 60 on the mainboard, go boxed for the start (no cpu cooler 35), save a few bucks on the mem (e.g. Crucial Ballistix 8GB 1600, around 22 bucks cheaper here), use the normal fractual tower another 30 saved, remove the fans (the case ships with enough, which are even more silent then the once you picked) saves 22. So around 270 saved which should be enough to get the expensive kf2 galax 980 soc.

    You could also take a look at the 970 model's which have around 5% less performance than the 980 but around 40-50% more than your 750 ti. As I only considered the 980 as potential upgrade. I don't have any research on the 970 models done and therefor can't tell you what I would pick.

    Another few hints, take a look at the samsung ssd's regarding read and write iop's and life time. Do you need a dvd reader/writer? (I don't have one, not even external and there was no case where I needed one yet) Would you invest a little bit more for an excellent monitor within your budget area? e.g. Dell U2414H. Did you ever consider a mechanical keyboard? Do you need the 2 TB space, or would a 500 gb ssd be better? (many people have multiple external drives they don't use :D)
     
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  13. cbrozak

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    Agree with most of what you posted. Sub 400 bucks the 5820K can't be beat atm.

    Of course you can wait til Q3 for the 14nm (skylake) '6th gen' cores to come out. It is going to open a whole new world. Current gen is 22nm architecture where skylake is on the proven 14nm (Core M was the pioneer CPU and has proven to be a beast).
     
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    In my opinion there isn't much that can utilize 12 cores and therefor the 4790k performs better in most cases, mainly due to its single threading performance. Where it can be utilized like video encoding you often have dual or quad cpu systems with +24 logical cores.

    From what I heard they are pushing the 14 and 10 nm to next year as they ran into issues around Moore's Law. The next thing will be a refresh of the current 22nm.
     
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    I've been using a gtx 970 (asus strix version) for the past few months, and my plan was always to by a second one for SLI at a later date (mainly in time for Star Citizen, which is the only game I expect to really need it for), but so far the only game that didn't handle brilliantly with just the one 970 has been TERA (and the devs behind TERA make no secret that they don't really bother much with optimisation so I expected that tbh!).. I've even been able to run GTA5 on high settings in 1080x5760 nvidia surround mode across my 3 monitors and even that was only just about enough to push it to its limits!
     
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    ok i downgraded my storage to 1 TB this way i still can store games on my pc and never need to worry about me running out of room
    i looked for the memory that slind suggested and all of them are more expensive then the one i chose
    i changed my case so i save some money there
    removed the fans
    removed CPU cooler
    removed optical drive

    all i have left that i need is a monitor as i discarded my last one and a video card and for the both of those i really don't want to spend any more then $400 unless i can save some money else where
    Intel Core i5-4690K, Cougar Solution (Black) - System Build - PCPartPicker Canada
     
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    hmm maybe 960 (don't know any :() or Sapphire R9 280X Vapor-X or Sapphire R9 280 Dual-X. Other's probably know a lot more in this area. (I know some about those r9 models because I spent hours researching at the time where the 9xx series from nvidia wasn't out and went with a 280 vapor-x. But remember you have less game support, for me that doesn't matter much..)

    The case you had was great. I wouldn't change it, but there are cheaper variants of it. From what I saw you picked a limited edition one. I got my fractal for 60 or 70 if I remember correctly.
     
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    14 is still being pushed for this year, 10 is on the horizon and I wouldn't expect to see that any time in the next year or two, especially without a flagship processor (like the M is for 14nm).

    I am confused at what you mean by Moore's Law? It's merely an observation and prediction that transistors in a circuit (in a processor to be more exact) has doubled every 2 years (ish). Has nothing to do with functionality or manufacturing.[DOUBLEPOST=1437178019][/DOUBLEPOST]I don't remember bringing up the 10nm at any rate.[DOUBLEPOST=1437178203][/DOUBLEPOST]Hey, look at that, it's already released: ARK | Intel® Core™ i7-5775C Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.70 GHz)

    a Quarter off.
     
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    The point is that we are fast approaching the end of Moore's law being feasible, at some point we will hit a major wall when it is no longer possible to make a gap inside the transistor small enough to make the transistor itself smaller (necessary to have more transistors in same size chip) but still wide enough to not allow a current to jump across when it isn't supposed to.
     

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