How have I bypassed sever restrictions if the restrictions were removed you do know if I wasn't ment to be able craft it would be disabled on the severs config also if u look on civs github you may notice that it is coming in the next patch anyway
"It may require a pack update." Which means this is for a future version of the modpack. Which means its not a part of the CURRENT modpack. Which means you hacking away at the client configs is a bypass of our server configs - this is dangerous behaviour. Should your little hack cause a server crash, its absolutely possible that it would do so without giving us specific information on the cause of the crash (depending on how the mods involved are writting - its about 50/50). IF we can't find a specific cause, or narrow down at least a player causing the crash (which we wouldn't have been able to, since you broadcast how to do your hack, and we could have a handful of people doing it), in a worst case scenario (no specific location info in crash-report, no specific player we could narrow it down on, no real way to patch it out without destroying mods, etc) we would have to rollback the _ENTIRE WORLD FOLDER_ to a point where the crash no longer happened. This would tie up an admin for a significant amount of time, and cause a great deal of distress to the player base - all because you got impatient for a modpack release.
It is still a feature that was enabled there for how is this hacking and does this really diserve a ban or perhaps a lecture would have been a better option at the time the way John was treated was just plain rude if khrymez enabled it and allowed it in the server then why shouldent John use it
Do...do you not understand that you were crashing random people out on the server? Anyone that mouses over those hacked-in tools CRASHES TO DESKTOP if they were smart enough to not mess with their configs - that's pretty much everyone, by the way. Both you AND john have TRAGICALLY misread Khrymez's message - The Civilization modpack (client _AND_ server packages) are stored in a github - I'm pretty sure what Khrymez is saying there is that in the STAGED package (Where the data for the NEXT RELEASE is stored), he changed it - however, this requires A SERVER UPDATE to apply. A server update which has not yet been done. A server update which is REQUIRED for these changes not to wreck the server, and your fellow players. We, the admin team here at MyM, have not taken his changes from the github, and put them on the server - the update is, as far as i know, not ready for release - and Khrymez is gone AFK for real life stuff. John jumped the gun, but you bossly - you did this KNOWING you were going to get banned for it, and without a single care of who you might crash. I'm deeply disappointed - I expect better from a former staff member. I expect more respect for other peoples play time, and for the server, and the integrity of the network. I expect something more than a childish display of rebellion when you have NO IDEA what you're talking about.
Knowing I will get banned as far as I knew it was enabled u cannot asume that I knew this was not enabled I thought it was just a graphical error as I have experience many before ein this pack hoping that I will get fixed by its self
And tbh it is still not a "server restriction" it is a client restriction if anything because this as I have tried to explain but was being ignored is NOT restricted on the server it is on a client config so how is it a "server restriction"
And @bosslykpeter is right you could of just spoke to me and I would of complied quite happily. I say as I always have a ban should be a last resort after speaking to the person
And how can you be holding me responsible for others crashing I had nothing to do with anyone attempting to craft this why is it u start assuming that it is I to balame
Lets make this clear : I did not ban either of you. Our moderator team did so - and I cannot fault them in the slightest for the actions they took. YOU, john, had a chance to have a discussion - However, you decided to ignore my statements, and cling to your mistaken notion that what Khrymez said was what you thought it meant - it was not, and you are mistaken. Had you been rational, and attentive, and understood that you made a mistake, heck, even a tiny bit of acceptance that you were mistaken in your thinking, and i would have unbanned you - I'm not a monster, or anything. To quote you, after i told you that This was not enabled on our server : "but it is enabled on the mym sever config whitch by my deduction means i havent bypassed anything i have changed the client whitch i am fully entiled to do look at the sever config it is enabled so how can i bypass something on a sever when its already allowed and krhy said it was enabled on the sever but may need a config change so im not by passing sever restrictions" You're going to tell an ADMIN that he's wrong, when he's looking at the actual config on the actual server, that actual second? Let me put this here for you, in big, bold letters so you CANNOT MISS IT : KHRYMEZ DID NOT MEAN WHAT YOU THINK. Please go back, and read what _I_ have written - that is fact. That is the state of the server. That is what is IN THE CONFIG that we are running. Ticon stuff for Thermal Expansion is not enabled. It being "planned" to be enabled, at some future point, is absolutely meaningless to the discussion at hand. You hacked your client configs to give yourself an advantage that other players, who did NOT modify their client, did not have. That is the very essence of cheating, and that, sir, no matter what intentions you had, is what you did that was against the rules. Had you accepted this - I would have unbanned you. I tried to explain to you how things actually were - you chose to ignore me. I showed you the rules, and explained how you broke them - you tried to be a rules lawyer. Thus, your ban appeal was denied. This thread will be locked, because you can't seem to accept that you messed up. If you engage in this behavior again, harsher bans will be applied. Please take this time to re-read your ban appeal, from the perspective that MrWisski is not an idiot, and that he knows what he's talking about.
Also bossly while you try to play innocent here, you knew perfectly well this wasn't allowed as you tried to complain about john's ban then we're caught with the hacked items as well.
This may have been an error on my end. Somehow the configs on the server had Thermal Foundation enabled, it should have been disabled to reflect the GitHub version at the time. About a week ago there was an issue with Shiny, Lead and other tools not being able to be repaired on the server. Originally i thought it was do to Thermal Foundation being disabled.... but it was not, its appears to be any tool with the Shiny/dense enchant. That being said, neither of these players used hacks to get the tools. They were only able to make these tool due to a mistake in the config server side. Today i changed the GitHub to reflect them being disabled and fixed the server configs. Actually it was enabled server side. Not sure when the mix up happened but the configs of GitHub and server were not the same. I have since fixed the issue, disabling it on Both the Server and GitHub to reflect the MyM client. Neither of these players "hacked" to get the tools, they were just able to make them do to a config change that was not meant to be server side yet. Their personal config change client side stopped them from crashing. This should been reported as a bug and i would have fixed it server side, if i knew players with crashing.
This is a dialogue that could have been opened long prior to now, but regardless what was meant and wasn't meant - all that is irrelevant to the situation. The bottom line is that they were still asked/told not to exploit something that they knew was causing a problem on the server, regardless of whether or not they were able to. They did it anyway. Fin.
Actuslly wisski checked server side and it was disabled. Either way the players used a way to cheat them in. In bossly's case he knew it was wrong and continued. Their attitudes towards this whole thing is most of their problem. Either way they can appeal their bans in the proper method as I stand behind my staff enforcing the rules and having to deal with these 2.
I changed the configs to disable them just a few hours ago. I agree they could have appealed it a little differently, but ultimately it was a mistake i made that allowed them to make the tools[DOUBLEPOST=1453468309][/DOUBLEPOST] Today was the first day i logged in all week, i am still "absent" just had to fix up some issues people were emailing me about.
