Departed - PvE Overworld - PvP all other worlds

Discussion in 'Community Talk' started by Slind, May 31, 2015.

  1. Slind

    Slind Founder

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    The topic about Departed - PvP yes/no developed into a direction of a nearly 50/50 situation and the discussion showed that everyone wants a different kind PvP (looting corpses..). The only thing that everyone seemed to find acceptable is the idea from Booker.

    It would be similar to Agrarian Skies during the time where the Nether was the PvP and raiding world (to make it even more insecure). So in Departed we would do it similar but for all the worlds besides the overworld (where you start).

    As the other topic has 146 replies and a wide range of topics, a new topic with the focus on this idea. Please share your opinion on it and don't hide further ideas around this concept. We will be announcing the final rules tomorrow and they will be based around your opinions and ideas provided here.

    A few things that come to my mind:
    • full time? or only on specific days
    • looting allowed?
    • raiding allowed?
     
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  2. Lawmonark

    Lawmonark Well-Known Member

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    Im all for a PvE overworld, With all other dimensions being PvP.

    As for corpse. Fair game. The reason i say this is because the following.
    - You can enchant Gear so you drop nothing in your body.
    - It would be a nightmare on staff to police every pvp kill and body loot.
    - YOU as a player are safe from pvp in the overworld, so if you die and dont got claim your stuff... its your fault, 99.9% of the time another player wont find your body if you die to a pve mob
    - In the other Dimensions PvP at your own risk, meaning if i kill you, i want/need your stuff
     
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  3. GiantFaffle

    GiantFaffle Twitch

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    YEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

    PVP FOR THE WIN

    We should have :
    • PVP full time ( all dimensions)
    • Looting allowed
    • Raiding not allowed
     
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  4. JavaBond

    JavaBond Well-Known Member

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    My opinion:

    PVP full time ( all dimensions)
    Looting allowed
    Raiding not allowed
     
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  5. julio1237878

    julio1237878 Game enthusiastic

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    PvP full time in all dimension
    looting allowed
    raiding not allow

    and
    Noob question after everything happens tomorrow will the pack be added to the mym launcher since the ftb launcher hates me for some reason
     
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  6. Slind

    Slind Founder

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    I didn't plan to but I guess we can work that out :)
     
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  7. BookerTheGeek

    BookerTheGeek Patron Tier 3

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    Fleshing out the idea.

    Overworld: no pvp, no raiding or griefing. Standard mym rules apply.

    Everywhere else: pvp on all the time. looting of corpses allowed. raiding of unclaimed allowed. No griefing/raiding claimed areas.

    This does bring up another point. Are claims allowed in other dims? My thoughts, as the pack requires you to proges through worlds, is Not to allow claims anywhere other then the overworld.

    Just my 2 pennies.
     
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  8. TheDrunkSquirrel

    TheDrunkSquirrel Well-Known Member

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    What about looting corpses?
     
  9. BookerTheGeek

    BookerTheGeek Patron Tier 3

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  10. TheDrunkSquirrel

    TheDrunkSquirrel Well-Known Member

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    Looking for answer from slind. So I don't get in "trouble" lol
     
  11. Slind

    Slind Founder

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    There are no plugins and no protection.
     
  12. BookerTheGeek

    BookerTheGeek Patron Tier 3

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    Then my previous statement stands as modified...

    Overworld=standard MyM rules

    Everywhere else = pvp, griefing, raiding, corpse looting, player traps, anything goes.
     
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  13. kirby_kiddd

    kirby_kiddd Well-Known Member

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    PvE overworld
    All other dimensions PvP weekends or something like that
     
  14. DemonicFury

    DemonicFury Well-Known Member

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    My opinion:

    PVP full time ( all dimensions)
    Looting allowed
    Raiding allowed in all dimension except overworld
     
  15. tommypoints

    tommypoints Well-Known Member

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    I am with booker and said the same thing in message #25 of the original post. The follow up argument about there are ways to bypass PVP are true but could be handled like any other rule violation on other mym servers. PVP deaths are in the log...if someone complains about a kill against the rules it could be handled with a temp ban/ban just like other infractions on the other servers.

    Lack of plugins makes it tough. Personally one of the primary reasons I donated to tier 4 was to be able to set the PVP flag. Being forced to play PVP on a pack that I really am enjoying in a PVE fashion is not ideal when I was hoping the tier 4 was a way to put dollars down for my preference of playstyle.

    Another option would be to just offer it both ways if it is possible resource wise. Many other mym servers have multiple servers and doesn't regrowth a UHC mode as an alternative? Splitting it would let the PVE folks be happy. The PVP folks would be happy too (well maybe since they won't have PVE folks to get easy kills against). Now that the vote is closer then perhaps this could be an alternative to satisfy both groups.

    The problem I see with enabling PVP some days and not others is around raiding bases. If that also includes raiding then once someone finds your base they can just wait to hit your base. Not sure how any of that would work though with no plugins to track it/stop it in the first place.
     
  16. Decnav

    Decnav Proud member of the VRMasterRace Patron Tier 2

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    A long time ago, I paid $120 to fund development of a MMO that never made it called Dark and Light. One of the cooler features was that you had to defend your fort for 1 real world hour once a week. You were able to schedule this time, so it was convenient to you. This made raiding fun, it was always known when you needed to have your guard up in your home, the rest of the time you were safe in your home. If we could have some sort of preset time that raiding was open, it would make defending towns interesting.

    I dont think implementing something is possible without some custom plug in that probably doesn't exist.



    Dark and Light and Wish were the best 2 MMO's I was able to play that never made it past alpha/beta. Both had some innovative things still not used in other games to date.
     
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  17. Lawmonark

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    The people that want PvP and raiding of corpse in all dimensions.... are the same people that have been causing "grief" for other players in the overworld,

    I feel if MyM doesnt make Overworld PvE... we will lose a lot of players to the other servers.
    PvP in 18 dimensions and PvE in the over world is a good trade off for a 60/40 vote.
     
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  18. BetaPetey

    BetaPetey Administrator Booster

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    Pvp should be in everywhere except the over world to allow people to grow as players
    Raiding and looting should be allowed because it makes it a more challenging thing to get better and keep your items safe
     
  19. Rebelborn

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    PVP FtW :D

    PvP full time in all dimension
    looting allowed
    raiding not allow
     
  20. TheDrunkSquirrel

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    • PvP full time in all dimensions.
    • yes looting allowed.
    • Raiding not allowed.
     

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