Revamp of the current market [Crackpack]

Hey all, its Atum here with a quick suggestion that I believe alot of people would be fond of.

So basically if you have ever used the market, you most likely know that it is usually cluttered beyond belief. Well that's why I am suggesting that instead of having one page for everyone's market offers you could take one of two options.

1.)Instead of /market opening up into 1+ pages with everyone's offers jammed together causing the listings to be removed after... (To be honest I don't know how long it currently takes for them to be auto removed), have it set for when a person places a single item offer on the market it places their head in /market and once clicked on opens a new page for just that said person. This would remove the need for having listings removed after a said time.

2.) Create the option for players to create their own market, that would show up as there head in /market, but once clicked on will actually warp the player to that persons own personally built market in which they use either chest shops or vendor blocks to make their own offers allowing for a more organized market in which you don't have to be a genius to use (not saying you have to be a genius for the current one, but a lot of players have issues/questions when first using it).

 

That sounds like a cool idea, but I have a few concerns.

It would be harder to see individual items, like say I want to try to buy some ender pearls, then I would have to individually check each person's market to see if they have any.

With the chest shops, it would be really easy just to set up an auto farm or a grinder to it, therefore making it really easy to automate the cash, as long as others visit your shop. From a server I used to play on, they actually disabled hoppers for that reason.

Finally, what's to say someone won't place a shop teleport that claims it's to buy things, but it just drops the player and kill's them, and collects the items? It would be easy to trick newer players into their death.

If there were ways around these, like say that you could have an alternate menus in the shop that sorts the listings, like you could have the original shop, and sort it by player names, or somehow create a plugin that ties chestshop into the market, then I think this would really work!

Unfortunately, devs and people have been quite busy with the new 1.10 servers, so even then, it would take a long time to get implemented, but I really like the ideas here!

 

@littlejdude Thanks for the feedback!

First off for the search of a single item among the different playershops, I had not thought of that scenario to be honest, though they could implement a searching system though it would be kinda tricky/extensive.

Secondly for the easy way to make cash, that's basically what it is already, the only difference is every time you log on just throw as much of every item you are selling into your stock, though I do see the concern you might have.

Thirdly for the trick traps, if this were to become an actual concern despite player killing traps being strictly forbidden we could implement a review of a players personal built market by a staff member before it is placed on the /market to become a valid warp.

Once again, thanks for the great feedback!

 

Personally I have always loved the Idea of a Shop Town, Where you pay rent, and can set up a chest shop

 

@AceOfBases did something similar to this on the old Civilisations server with the mall outside of spawn, which was relatively successful considering that it opened just as the server began to lose players.

 

I'm likely to do it when 1.10 firms up.

 

if that mall was ever popular enough to have people i would have murdered everyone in it for fun. :3

 

There were definitely a few attempted murders. I had a lot of fun fending them off from my invisibility.

 

I did to

 

i do think the market should be changed a little, but im not sure how to change it. Anything that gets pushed to page 2 seems to be forgotten, so thats a problm

 

I actually have a couple of things i'd like to add. First, the ability to shift+click items into and out of the market. Its so slow to have to place the items in one stack at a time, and then when you have to take them out if you've made a mistake and place them all back in again..

Second, increasing the number limit from 5 stacks to.. maybe 8? 320 items might seem like a lot but people can run out if the demand is high enough.

Third, two types of refreshing options. First would be to refresh the item already listed so it appears on newest and doesn't get forgotten in page 2 or times out. There will need to be a time limit of maybe a day or more for this(wouldn't know how to set that up though. maybe another selectable option like [Stock] and [Listings] inside of the [Stock] menu. The second refresh would be come as an option after your items have timed out. Right clicking will relist them, left clicking will bring the options we already have (listing or withdrawing). The scenario for that is that when your items time out and you don't want to put them back up, left clicking once takes you to the normal options where you can either list them again for different amounts and prices or withdraw them.

 

I like the mall idea...not the concept of rent so much though...then you have to remember to maintain it. Why not set it up with individual plots, a bit like subdividing claims, that can be purchased from the server for a flat rate. Then you don't have to remember to pay the rent on it. Bigger the plot the more it costs. Maybe have standard sizes for it to keep it uniform for the mall/town concept. Also, by setting it up that way we get to have fun building our own shops/market stalls. Additionally, if this actually happens it would be useful to have some kind of request board/grocery list in a central location so people can request things that they need if they can't find them. That would keep those convos out of global chat. Not that its a bad thing to see them, necessarily, but it does create a lot of clutter on the chat feed. I also think we would need a command similar to /spawn to tp there. Otherwise I don't know that people would use it.

 

The issue with not having rent is that this can leave to shops being abandoned if a player leaves a specific server.

 

I still think my suggestions need more attention. Their good ideas that can lead to a better market.

 

@LordFungi I'll be much more willing to listen to your ideas after either

1. Your floating island idea pays off
2. It fails and you clean it up without staff help.

 

IT WILL. I'll show you. I'll show all of you!

 

As you failed to mention which one I assume you mean fail?

 

http://mylolface.com/assets/faces/rage-mega-rage.jpg

 

I had a floating island once.... it was great every time I went to my power supply at the botten I fell out of the map #great

 

What about removing their shop from 1 week inactivity?