SRV - Opinions (Server RestartVote)

Discussion in 'Community Talk' started by Slind, Jun 15, 2015.

  1. Slind

    Slind Founder

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    Hey,

    the server restart vote, seems to be causing more hassle then being any helpful. What is your opinion on it?
     
  2. The_Icy_One

    The_Icy_One Procrastinates by doing work

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    I haven't seen any issues with it on TDT. In fact, it hasn't been used at all AFAIK.
     
  3. chugga_fan

    chugga_fan ME 4M storage cell of knowledge, all the time

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    Slind, /srv has been used in the moments i almost perfectally predicted on the original thread, player's can't handle tps below 15, so they spam it for no good reason even though the TPS is O.K.
     
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  4. ItsNora_

    ItsNora_ Names not actually Noah Booster

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    I actually agree with Chugga on this. I had made a post about making the command a staff only command. Considering that people cant for some reason coprehend tps being below perfect. I know that staff have the ability to cancel the command. But it would be helpful to change the entire command to a staff only, allowing staff online at the time to figure out what the issue is and in turn fix it.
     
  5. chugga_fan

    chugga_fan ME 4M storage cell of knowledge, all the time

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    on AS2 a server restart just happened which i wish didn't this is why i rejected this idea in the first place
    <--- screenshots of what went down
     
  6. BetaPetey

    BetaPetey Administrator Booster

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    My opinion on this command that it should be used for staff only, when trying to solve tps issues on a server every 5 minutes theirs a server restart vote and then a senior mod cant come and look into what is causing the lag/tps issues. It's not very helpful for regular players to have it in my opinion.
     
  7. MrWisski

    MrWisski Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps making the vote dependant on the TPS would help? Say, less than 8 TPS?

    The thing is, we have periods of low staff density. No, we're never at no staff, there's always someone, but during these periods, response time to server issues is decreased. Having something like this really fills in that gap.
     
  8. chugga_fan

    chugga_fan ME 4M storage cell of knowledge, all the time

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    if you make /srv do that that'd be great, and when checking tps make sure it uses the /tps command instead of /cofh tps (helps more than you think, /cofh tps apparently skips the last few ticks when giving the full profile)
     
  9. Slind

    Slind Founder

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    we could move the request and maybe also the vote permission up to a higher playtime rank.
     
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  10. chugga_fan

    chugga_fan ME 4M storage cell of knowledge, all the time

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    that could work, as the more dedicated members have in general a better idea of this type of stuff
     
  11. ItsNora_

    ItsNora_ Names not actually Noah Booster

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    Thats not always true. But I guess we can always try :)
     
  12. chugga_fan

    chugga_fan ME 4M storage cell of knowledge, all the time

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    "in general" are key words
     
  13. jampot5000

    jampot5000 New Member

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    I would just like to add as much as chugga is claiming his screenshots as proof the command needs removing/changing, it did help the tps and for a decent amount of time, it is still higher now than it was before the restart. I am all for the command not being spammed and also for a member of staff trying to resolve the issues if they are around, however when they are not around the command is very helpful.
     
  14. chugga_fan

    chugga_fan ME 4M storage cell of knowledge, all the time

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    except i also had said that i had called a staff member to come and help, if you had read this in chat you should have known immediately not to have done it, which is the entirety of the reason i was annoyed at you for starting the vote, if you had noticed this and been polite enough for the staff to figure the problem, which, again is the entirety of the staff's complaints above your posts, if you understood this, maybe i'd be sympathetic, but otherwise, i won't be
     
  15. jampot5000

    jampot5000 New Member

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    Chugga there has still not been a staff member available to look at it, it had also been between 5-10 minutes from when ya had first said that and it was quicker to do a restart. I'm not going to argue about it as I don't see a reason to, it is a good option to have while staff members are not available, evidently fourteen people online agreed on that for the vote.

    *edited to add quote
     
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  16. Pitschweis

    Pitschweis New Member

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    Don't know but on DW20 servers we had pretty much a 70% success.
    For example what I do is when the tps is low aks in global: ok lets to a server vote TPS is low and it would be great if we do the restart.
    The problem I saw was people not getting the notification or just not seeing it as it blends in with the chat.
     
  17. _prpl_

    _prpl_ Well-Known Member

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    I like the idea of having a minimum before a vote is allowed. This weekend I tried to stop several as our tps was 16. I was personally thrilled with 16 tps on a weekend!
     
  18. chaosblad3

    chaosblad3 Very Well-Known Member

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    I think the problem is that while the command is really useful for people who know what they are doing, as chugga says people who don't know what they are doing are using it when it isn't necessary..

    Rather than having any player able to start a vote, or even having it be any player with enough ontime etc, i think players who want that ability should have to ask for it from a staff member in-game (give all staff a simple command like /setsrv [name] that would give the named player the srv permission) that way only players who can convince a staff member that they will use it responsibly would be able to use it when staff aren't there to use it themselves.
     
  19. LucidTheStick

    LucidTheStick Well-Known Member

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    Then we get in the position of having to police who has it. I think adding a minimum up time on the server, vote cooldown, (if possible) TPS check, and also some educational feedback to the command. For example when you run it the first time, it gives you some information like "Only to be used when TPS is below 8, the vote will be locked out for next XX minutes, etc" then give them a code which they have to run command with again to actually activate the vote.
     
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  20. Slind

    Slind Founder

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    The one thing I don't like about a tps rule is if it is timeout/lag spike related.
     

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