Done Storage cell resiliency adn player inventory?

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  1. Ubidibity

    Ubidibity Well-Known Member

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    I have a lot of time invested in the overworld, and don't intend to reset on purpose. But I'd like to 'save' a cache of stuff, sort of an emergency rebuild fund.

    So I've been playing with storage cells. I've finally got a linking book that pops me directly inside my 16x16x16 spatial io cell. I could build out a nice little 'safe house' here, possibly storing all my dsu's and other random stuff that I would want/need if I had to rebuild.

    But I can't find answers to two basic questions that determine whether or not this is a fantastic idea, or a horrible idea.

    First, would there ever be any reason that these storage cell dimensions would be deleted without warning? I realize you probably can't tell by looking at the filesystem which dimensions belong to which users, so would there be some kind of warning period before these were wiped?

    I'm pretty sure doing so would break those spatial cells (I haven't been able to re-use any of the one's I messed up during my learning curve so I have 16x16x16 cells with 2x2x1 spatial formatting for example). But still I get that this is a risk, so what's the policy (if any) on resetting that data, and how safe would anything in one of these cells be?

    The next critical piece would be that it's irrelevant if the data survives reset and is permanent/persistent if there's no way to get there. So assuming I didn't log out inside the cell before whatever event kept me away for the extended absence, I would need a linking book or dislocator to get back inside to access my cache.

    Does the player inventory and metadata survive reset as well? If I have a link book/dislocator in my backpack will that survive the two week reset?

    How about things like Thaumcraft metadata. Can/should I put a tome of knowledge in my cache so I can re-learn thaum if I'm reset unexpectedly?

    If this is really safe then it strikes me that if I really wanted to I could take a 128 spatial cell, and store my entire base in a spatial cell, then take that with me into my 16x16x16 cell, and at any point down the road just 'pop' that back into the world wherever I like (or maybe just so I'm not centered in the middle of a swamp).

    Can any mods opine on any of these points? (I'm not so interested in random conjecture so much as hoping I can get some actual idea of what will actually happen to my character data after a reset)

    My guess is that the 'rollback' only affects the claim area of the world, and hopefully the metadata is secure. But I don't know whether or not there'd be any reason the file system would get scrubbed of these 'extra' dimensions...

    Thank you for your time,
    and sorry for writing a book.
     
  2. wyndman

    wyndman Well-Known Member

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    In the event that you are gone for fourteen days, 28 after running the /absence command all your claims are regenerated in order to make room for new players. This does not effect your player data in anyway. Now for the more complex areas of your questions, assuming the "dimensions", for the sake of this discussion we will consider the cells as such, where you store your items are not regularly reset you can come back and enjoy those items. Though this is not an absolute, just because certain DIMs are not subject to reset does not mean they will survive. There are only so many floppy disks of information Slind wants to keep around his house, so on occasion when we run out of space we do toss regions that have been untouched for an extended time (months not weeks) we gather up those disks and bring them to the recycling center.

    Or in other words, disks get full, if a region isn't being used we will delete region files (among other files) that are not being used to free up needed space.

    Thaumcraft data is saved as part of your player data, so that normally remains intact as well. I think that covers all your questions.
     
  3. Ubidibity

    Ubidibity Well-Known Member

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    Yes, this was good. The only final thing I was hoping for was an acknowledgement that Slind would hopefully give people a chance to warp their stuff out of the dimensions first. Ideally with a 2 week minimum notice (since that seems to be the acceptable away time)...then that way if you just don't go to the dimension, but don't want to lose the stuff you just throw up some pylons and warp it back into the overworld.

    I realize that it's probably not a thing, because no ones ever brought that up, but as I know at least one other user lives in a storage cell, would it be possible to get that adopted as a standard operating procedure? Prior to wiping a DIM everyone gets a warning that if you haven't logged into your DIM in >14 days please do so or warp it out of the pocket dimension before x/y/z date?

    Either way I guess that covers everything for me, thank you for taking the time to address this.
     
  4. wyndman

    wyndman Well-Known Member

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    It's not feasible to warn people that we are going to delete certain files, when it comes to it we normally need to clear the space sooner rather than later. We also are clearing things that have had months of inactivity so the rule of thumb usually applies if someone hasn't been to their base in the <insertdimensionhere> etc in eight months they probably aren't active anymore. Combine this with the fact that occasionally things break, including spatial storage so it may not be the perfect system for storing your life savings.
     
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  5. Kazeodori

    Kazeodori Well-Known Member

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    So if you really want to keep some thing safe, put the stuff to make a basic me system in a golden bag, NO STORAGE CELLS. Make a set of draconium armor or endgame stuff to put in there. If you have the supplies to get the materials fast, then you don't have to store those to rebuild. If you have some high end thaum item, or your botania baubles, put those in there. And put it all in your vanilla ender chest.

    Player data and inventory hangs around for some time. But don't expect to be gone for a year and it still be there. Things do get periodically cleared out, servers shut down, new ones opened up.
     
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    Kronnn Well-Known Member

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    Just a note on what kaze said. Do not put the drives into a golden bag or any kind of portable inventory, I'd suggest leaving them and the golden bag with other me system parts in your enderchest inventory.
     
  7. coolgi3000

    coolgi3000 Logician of the gods

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    Is vanilla enderchest data stored in player data? And that is stored serverside right?
     
  8. BookerTheGeek

    BookerTheGeek Patron Tier 3

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    Yes to both
     
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  9. brandonlk

    brandonlk Well-Known Member

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    question, can you stick storage cells on those enderchests that you can change the colours on? (and have the ender pouch)
     

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