CraftMine pack - would you play it?

Discussion in 'Community Talk' started by Paint_Ninja, Jan 11, 2016.

  1. SirStudMuffin

    SirStudMuffin Well-Known Member

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    Cmon admins give him a chance, hes giving credible details why it should be on the network
     
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  2. johnfg10

    johnfg10 Well-Known Member

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    to be fair there a bit stretched atm with the amount of ppl that have quit
     
  3. SirStudMuffin

    SirStudMuffin Well-Known Member

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    Tbh im not surprised from what ive heard
     
  4. johnfg10

    johnfg10 Well-Known Member

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    ? msg me xD
     
  5. Paint_Ninja

    Paint_Ninja New Member

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    Briefly looking at the MYM Server Stats, I see big packs like Attack of the C team and Thaumic skies with less players online having a MYM server... Or am I reading the chart wrong?
     
  6. johnfg10

    johnfg10 Well-Known Member

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    nope cteam and TS is pretty empty[DOUBLEPOST=1465761878][/DOUBLEPOST]bteam is completly packed
     
  7. Paint_Ninja

    Paint_Ninja New Member

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    I'm just going to keep on posting stuff about CM and why it's beneficial, bumping the topic every now and then until I get any message from a member of MYM staff...
     
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  8. johnfg10

    johnfg10 Well-Known Member

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    fair enough ;) nag them till they sort it i like your thinking
     
  9. Paint_Ninja

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    I'm not nagging anyone, I'm getting free publicity and better SEO by writing about CM on third-party forums anyway lol. Whenever someone asks me a question about CM I'm usually able to just send them a link to a specific post where I've already answered that question on this thread. :p
     
  10. johnfg10

    johnfg10 Well-Known Member

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    hehe xD still nag them xD
     
  11. SirStudMuffin

    SirStudMuffin Well-Known Member

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    It is pretty slow though tbh, like what 5 months later
     
  12. Slind

    Slind Founder

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    This is nero, visitors = installs:
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    I'm sorry but it is by far not popular enough for us to set it up with the human resources we have atm.
     
  13. SirStudMuffin

    SirStudMuffin Well-Known Member

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    But Slind could we not replace something for this instead, something that has no players
     
  14. Slind

    Slind Founder

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    The issue is human resources not server hardware.
     
  15. SirStudMuffin

    SirStudMuffin Well-Known Member

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    I could say something but won't
     
  16. Paint_Ninja

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    Just over 6 months now. I started contacting MYM around early January 2016 a couple of days before I joined this forum.

    Again just looking at install figures and not retention rates. You can have a million installs a day but it means nothing if only a tiny percentage of those players keep coming back. Plus, you picked the pack that currently is the most popular on your network at the moment - which isn't exactly a fair comparison against a pack whose author has specifically stated that it has low recognition.
     
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  17. Slind

    Slind Founder

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    But those are speaking against craft mine?
    This pack has been installed on 1075 clients and has been launched 4274 times. => 3.97
    36K DOWNLOADS 207K RUNS (excluding MyM Launcher) => 5.75
     
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    Now you're comparing retention rates from different popularity categories.

    I'm certain you already know this as you run both popular and near-empty servers, but people are less likely to come back if the modpack isn't very popular or the server is empty/near-empty. Obviously if you compare a popular modpack that has full servers and lots of players who rely on each other, they are more likely to keep on coming back than a small modpack with a sample based on just a few players playing alone - who do not rely on anyone or have a desire to come back to play with other players also playing the pack.

    It's like you're comparing a pack that has retention rates solely influenced by the modpack against a pack that has more influences, such as celebrity influences ("omg my favourite youtuber is playing that I should play that too and follow along!"), social influences ("my mates are playing this, I should keep playing with them even if I'm not enjoying this pack as much as I would've liked"), etc...
     
  19. Slind

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    Setting up a new server with everything around it is around 8 hours + spawn building.
    On top comes the maintenance which is always way higher with less popular mods. All the servers we currently have had been pretty popular during their prime time.
    Servers with less than 1.5% players base are being considered for shot down every week. This includes:
    Tekkit Legends
    BeeHappy
    Revenge of the C-Team
    Civilization
    Pixelmon
    Thaumic Skies
    Hypovolemia

    If we take the entire craft mine player base (reported by yampst) it would already be below the 1.5%. I do see it getting a small rush, but it will die off within a month and we usually don't setup server which we don't expect to live for at least half a year.
    Our community is merely consistent out of hardcore modded minecraft players, having a pack which can be rushed through isn't something that gives retention with our community.
     
  20. SirStudMuffin

    SirStudMuffin Well-Known Member

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    Well you need something, we having had something relatively new (except NERO) in over 5 months[DOUBLEPOST=1465768651][/DOUBLEPOST]Also shut down pixelmon thats been dead for a long time
     

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