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Bosslykpeter Ban

Discussion in 'Community Talk' started by Slind, Jan 28, 2016.

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  1. King_Cronus

    King_Cronus Well-Known Member

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    i did not know that was not allowed bare in mind this was before the official pvp rules where explained in the forums[DOUBLEPOST=1454014267][/DOUBLEPOST]
    With a bit of explanation from all the great staff i now understand that this should not have happened and would not have if i wasent such a smart ass about the rules honestly i should have thought about it a bit more before doing so[DOUBLEPOST=1454014555][/DOUBLEPOST]
     
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  2. SirStudMuffin

    SirStudMuffin Well-Known Member

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    Does this mean bossly's claims getting removed from inactivity?
     
  3. Arcanuo

    Arcanuo Old School Poster

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    The fact that you continue to fight it, maybe theres a slim chance you didn't commit it, but it'd be better for you to simply stop yet but you to continue to argue. What in ferret's spicy tomatos is that accomplishing? Nothing. I'd suggest just dropping it.
     
  4. King_Cronus

    King_Cronus Well-Known Member

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    they wont my squad will probably fly past them at one point but the chunk loaders ughhh[DOUBLEPOST=1454015126][/DOUBLEPOST]
    i dont understand where ur coming from
     
  5. aD0UBLEj

    aD0UBLEj Well-Known Member

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    Claims only reset if there are no active trusted player in them I believe, so any that the whole group or at least one are trusted in shouldn't get removed.
     
  6. PhantomRTW

    PhantomRTW Retired Staff

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    Flying over a claim will not prevent its deletion.

    Claim deletion is based on the owners log-ins to the server. Not the people that are trusted.. the owner.

    As for your bans. I believe that after your ban appeal was denied, you should have waited. Even if you deemed it unfair, waiting the two weeks would have been infinitely better than doing what you did, and getting banned even worse than you already were.

    You parading around the forum, spamming people and making several threads on the same subject just shows a level of immaturity that would not help anyone get their ban lifted, at all.
     
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  7. King_Cronus

    King_Cronus Well-Known Member

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    i wanted to post a forum that kept on being deleted because lucid disagreed
     
  8. MoltairTremox

    MoltairTremox Well-Known Member

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    Just to clarify some things, by the time killing people inside claims was on, you killed several people and I let you know that it was against the rules, you also killed me inside my own claim, it was against the rules, but I let it happen to me, as I was not bothered at all, I dont mind losing items, in fact I like to have risks on losing items, but remember, not all players thinks like that. Now, when you said "i have been banned for this could have been resolved through one conversation" you know that me and other staff members wanted you to join teamspeak for you to talk personally with Lucid, Luphadir knows this because I told him to join teamspeak as well. hacked items, if you know you can't craft the items you had at that moment, items that were not supposed to be crafted on the server without modifying configs that is a server restriction bypass right there.

    § Client-Modification and Cheating
    • Mods, Texture Packs or similar that would give you an advantage are strictly forbidden.
      • X-Ray and Fly-Mods/Hacks mods/clients
      • Bypassing server functions and restrictions, for example avoiding AFK-kick with an anti-AFK machine will not be tolerated.
    You may ask, how is it cheating, well, getting an unfair advantage that no other player is able to get (without modifying configs) is cheating.

    Tip: read the rules so you do not get involved in this types of situation, also as stating the rules by that time '
    • Treat others as you want to be treated
    I am pretty sure you would not like the actions you made, to be made to you, just ask yourself this question "Would I like to be suddenly summoned in another claim to be killed and my grave to be stolen, losing all my items?" I am quite sure you would respond NO to that question.
    '
     
  9. LucidTheStick

    LucidTheStick Well-Known Member

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    Ok. That has to stop. I didn't do any of the bans against you except the forum when you started spamming. Your bans were reviewed internally as Slind said and he approved your forum ban. I'm sorry if you think I have some sort of problem with you, but I was barely involved.
     
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  10. King_Cronus

    King_Cronus Well-Known Member

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    Personally i dont mind the risk of being teleported but what ever and the items like i said before i did not know they where banned i though it was a graphical error as i have experienced many before in this pack
     
  11. BookerTheGeek

    BookerTheGeek Patron Tier 3

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    As the now staff member in charge of CIV, I would like to put my two cents in about the situation.

    My opinion on this is not open to debate (as in this is the only post I will be making about this. Talk about it amongst yourself if you like). That being said I would like for the players to know what I think of this situation, and what I feel about what was done. Please read everything and take it all into context if/when quoting me or discussing what I post.​


    When this all happened, I was at work. A staff member asked me what to do as I was now in charge of Civ. At that point in time the ban had just been done. This was approx. 3 hours before I got to a computer and could review everything.

    Taking this incident solely by itself, and following the exact letter of the rules, I felt that what happened would not have been exactly deserving of a two week ban. This was before I was able to look at everything.

    First, things do not happen in a vacuum. When something happens we look at everything;
    • The rules.
    • How we have decided things in the past
    • How this will effect the server in the future
    • Previous transgressions of the player
    • The appearance of the intentions of the Player.
    When I got home I looked over everything related to this incident, also I discussed the issue with other staff as nothing should happen in a vacuum. This is what we talked about:
    1. The rules, and how they were worded.
    2. We talked about what happened.
    3. If you should be punished at all.
    4. Your past transgression.
    5. Conversations you had (or avoided) with staff / krhymaz about this subject.
    6. Loopholes.
    So. Taking all of this into account, we decided that with had transpired, the two week ban would stay. How did we come to this conclusion?
    • You knew that killing inside of claims was not allowed. (Quote edited for clarity)
    • The INTENTION of the rules at the time was that people were safe while inside of there claims. Safe from loss of their items and from PvP. You knew this.
    • Knowing this, you gamed the rules finding what you thought was a loophole which would allow you to do what you wanted without technically breaking the rules.
    • What you did was the equivalent of throwing snowballs at somebody inside their claim till they got knocked out of their claim so you can kill them. They were inside a protected area and YOU moved them out of it.

    So, we left the ban as is. Why the two weeks? Due to who banned you, that was the max time y0u could be banned. You do see the request for it to become permanent? Why should it really have been a permanent Ban? As posted HERE, we have a Protection Bypass along with a Non-PvP bypass. What you did, on any other server other than CIV, would have resulted in a Perm + 2 day ban.
    • 2 days for PvP Bypass:
      • You moved them outside of a protected area against their will, and killed them. They were protected and you made them not protected.
    • Perm for Protection bypass:
      • Since you took items from a player's grave that normally would have been inside a claimed area if you did not move them, this would have resulted in a PERM ban from the network.

    As this is Civ, and as it's really the only server where PvP is allowed, we came to the conclusion that the ban would sit at two weeks. It was AFTER all of this went down that I went and re-wrote the rules to have less of an ability for misunderstanding.

    You knew what you were doing was against the spirit of the rules and the server even after multiple conversations with staff.

    This is also not your first offence with trying to find loopholes in the rules to do what you want to do even though you know that what you want to do is against the intention of the rules.

    When staff did try to talk to you about it you refused to talk to them.

    What could have been worked out privately and maybe have resulted in a reduction in your ban instead turned into this fiasco.
     
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  12. King_Cronus

    King_Cronus Well-Known Member

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    Dosent seem that way but this hacking thing is rediciouls i let it slide as it was 2 days but now its costing me an extra 9 days away from my team
     
  13. aD0UBLEj

    aD0UBLEj Well-Known Member

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    So can we request a claim transfer or something to stop them being removed?
     
  14. LucidTheStick

    LucidTheStick Well-Known Member

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    Your attitude and previous behavior are costing you that. You have no one to blame but yourself, please look in the mirror. Be happy that you were allowed back on the forum so you could respond here. However it doesn't seem to be helping you realize that you were in the wrong.
     
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  15. BookerTheGeek

    BookerTheGeek Patron Tier 3

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    yes
     
  16. aD0UBLEj

    aD0UBLEj Well-Known Member

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    Ok is there some timeframe that we have to wait for this or could it be done now?
     
  17. PhantomRTW

    PhantomRTW Retired Staff

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    Yes, you can make a ticket in game and request it be turned over, but I would wait until this pans out, or until you get a 1 week reminder in-game that the claim will be removed :)
     
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  18. King_Cronus

    King_Cronus Well-Known Member

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    My only issue is that Slind said it would have been 5 days if not for the false hacking accusation and i have admitted to my mistakes look up[DOUBLEPOST=1454018748][/DOUBLEPOST]
    Most of the claims are in wtffidy's but you have my full permision to transfer all claims to @aD0UBLEj @johnfg12 @wtffidy
     
  19. LucidTheStick

    LucidTheStick Well-Known Member

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    Dropbox - 2016-01-28 16_58_39-Temporary _ bosslykpeter _ 2D _ Bypass of server restrictions_ client file modif.png
    Dropbox - 2016-01-28 16_58_59-Temporary _ bosslykpeter _ 2D _ Bypass of server restrictions_ client file modif.png

    These are the weapons you had. Your friend John got banned for them previously and staff had warned you not to have them. However you thought it was OK to modify your client to have the weapons that no one else could. Stop with the drama please and see you when the ban expires.
     
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  20. PhantomRTW

    PhantomRTW Retired Staff

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    You are using the term "hacking" too literally. Game files were modified that allowed you to use an item that no one else could use.

    And please, do not insult our intelligence and tell us that your client files were not modified. If they had NOT been, then you would have crashed as soon as the item were in your inventory, as it would have not synced up to the server.

    Client modifications that give an advantage are NOT tolerated, and will result in a ban.

    Edit: Ninja'd by Ninjachickens
     
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