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chugga_fan · 8. Januar 2014

Zitat von Truen: ↑

On the subject of chunkloaders, I would like to bring up a very popular block that is not present in Horizons: quarries. A quarryplus, running at max size, loads over 100 chunks by its self. Now, this seems like an "oh my god that must lagg the server plz ban omg" moment, that many would say. This however, has not shown to be the case. If many set this up, sure, that would defiantly cause problems. But as horizons has not legal methods of loading chunks (that I know of) other than personal loading, having, say, 20-30 chunk loaders are unlikely to harm the server. With that eliminated, it must be developed a method of understanding the necessity of chunk loaders on horizons. With both lava pumps banned (and even if they were unbanned pumping lava is extremely inefficient. Use igneous extruders feeding into volcanic furnaces) I see no use in that. Secondly, the range on an arcane bore would actually require 2-3 chunk loaders for the bore to actually complete, not to mention that in Thuamcraft 4, the bore was placed in the absolute end game of Thuamcraft, rather than the beginning like in 2 or the original. This means that it is likely that only four or five players across the whole server posses one. This leaves one of the only applications of a chunk loader are auto-farming, offline progress, and smelting. The first is truly a loss, but worth the hassle of a chunk loader? The second is fairly greedy (and lowers the amount of server play time, and simple economics will state that the player who plays less will be less likely to donate). Lastly, smelting; if you are using an alloy furnace with the highest level of capacitor, you should have your smelting done before you can get done setting up the crafting table or have gotten to the point where you need the resource, and in that case I recommend the ME auto crafting system.

When condensed, this analysis points to the fact that there are actually very little applications of a chunk loader on the Horizons server, except having multiple bases with separate power systems. With so little applications, I don't see buying motive being very high, leading to sales only reaching in the teens. This comes at the expense of setting up the system. This system would have to include a method to keep loaders from transferring to others or being lost, as I can only imagine the flood of messages that say "omg I lost my loader in crash plz replace" and even worse the people saying this message without actually losing it; and if they weren't replaced? The message "omg this server is so stupid I paid money for tht omg". And with all the duplication glitches that have been discovered, if someone found a new one and duplicated their loader?

Now the counter analysis comes from a financial point of view. If the loaders were sold for real money, there is an initial pay off if the staff was willing to deal with all the consequences of enabling loaders in any shape, especially that one.

My final opinion is no, absolutely not.

As for mystcraft? That is a stronger no. The only way, other than linking books, for mystcraft to play a part in a server environment would be for mystcraft to be used in the generation of a farmwold, but the current ones are more stable anyway, not that they're really useful on horizons as there are no auto-mining systems other than the two bores (with one banned) that are better used in the deep dark.
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i like this but the fact is the arcane bore doesn't chunkload it's self. it chunkload's what it's MINING.

Slind · 8. Januar 2014

@Truen a big difference between a Quarry and a Chunkloader is, that the quarry is not used to load machines (should not) so it is only the quarry which is running and keeping the chunks loaded which only causes a bit memory usage, which is not a problem. But as soon as +50 machines are loaded per player the cpu usage will go up like nothing. Especially if the ME-System is crafting while the player is farming somewhere else.

jg1203 · 8. Januar 2014

What about spot loaders, like max 2 per person if u donated and 1 if you haven't. They're smaller than chunk loaders and I've seen them enabled on some large ftb servers.

chugga_fan · 8. Januar 2014

Zitat von Slind14: ↑

@Truen a big difference between a Quarry and a Chunkloader is, that the quarry is not used to load machines (should not) so it is only the quarry which is running and keeping the chunks loaded which only causes a bit memory usage, which is not a problem. But as soon as +50 machines are loaded per player the cpu usage will go up like nothing. Especially if the ME-System is crafting while the player is farming somewhere else.
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the thing is slind that it wouldn't be used for machine's it would be more likely used for farms and (if you're like me) arcane bores.

Slind · 9. Januar 2014

Zitat von chugga_fan: ↑

the thing is slind that it wouldn't be used for machine's it would be more likely used for farms and (if you're like me) arcane bores.
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I don´t think most of the people would use them for farms only.

To give this conversation a small clue. Atm the server tps are going up and down, atm ThermalExpension is messing them up with the server uptime. As soon as we get the server stable and have a constant tps level I think about chunkloaders again. Of course you can remind me about it, that I don´t forget it.

chugga_fan · 9. Januar 2014

Zitat von Slind14: ↑

I don´t think most of the people would use them for farms only.

To give this conversation a small clue. Atm the server tps are going up and down, atm ThermalExpension is messing them up with the server uptime. As soon as we get the server stable and have a constant tps level I think about chunkloaders again. Of course you can remind me about it, that I don´t forget it.
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should chunk-loaders and mystcraft be donner perk!!

sounds like good idea

maybe chunkloaders

only mystcraft

maybe both but limit it

just NO

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