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What do you dislike about hardcore packs in general?

Discussion in 'Community Talk' started by Datsaltysnek, Jul 27, 2021.

  1. Datsaltysnek

    Datsaltysnek lover of NCIS

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    As the title suggest what is some of the things you as a community hate from the hardcore packs that are out there? Is it the crafting recipies? the forced use of multiple mods? the large amount of single use items that can only be crafted in a stupidly large crafting table for no reason then "ha ha "hardcore crafting" go brrr"
    (not dissing on any pack makers btw just like to get the communities thoughts on the packs out there.
     
  2. Willshaper

    Willshaper Administrator Build Team

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    When they get excessively grindy.

    I love myself a nice hard pack with complicated recipes, but having to create 100 singularities consisting of 100k items each is not my idea of fun.

    Oh and bigger than 3x3 crafting recipes that you can't automate immediately. I'm looking at you DDSS.
     
  3. Sandstroem

    Sandstroem Patron Tier 3

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    The one thing I don't like in expert packs is when you have to collect random stuff from random dimensions into a 9x9 that don't make any sense. I am looking at you, project ozone.
     
  4. dailypeanut

    dailypeanut Well-Known Member

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    when you can't just make a crafting table. I'm looking at you Regrowth !
     
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  5. LordEreh

    LordEreh much sad Doge

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    When your base have so much machines that after ticket count rework you cant fuel chunk loader.
     
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  6. misscatlin1951

    misscatlin1951 We die so others may live.

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    What I don't like about Hard Core Packs is the Simply stupid way to get ANYTHING done. For the most part, I enjoy stretching the neurons to wrap around a new problem, but the setups that some need (making a crystal pick) is just downright Criminal! I wonder if any of the mod authors had heard the old phrase KISS! For the most part, I really enjoy the packs.
     
  7. harryarne

    harryarne Well-Known Member

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    I hate having to progress through tedious undocumented mods (like lordcraft, abyssalcraft and ember), also when a mod is 'paint by numbers' (like rockhounding) I don't really see the point. Also, in a server environment, I don't like when you have to kill this one mob that spawns in this one biome. Generally, you'll be really lucky to have a ghast spawn on a MyM server as a random spawn. Also, packs that have millions of non-automateable microcrafting (gregtech) I find too tedious too. I really enjoyed Multiblock madness this time, up onto the point that it scaled too much for it to be server-friendly. This could easily have been fixed with making reactor to make inf. ingots x20 and singularities 50x per.
     
  8. misscatlin1951

    misscatlin1951 We die so others may live.

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    Not having seen the end of the pack, I can't respond to that as I play multiple games in my defense. I'm almost 70 with a severe breathing problem. so I do not work except to create small contracted programs for other people. I play because I want to.
    I do agree that the pack is a lugger as it by itself and will slow anything less than an 8 core processor with insane memory and graphic card. It slows the processing speed of my 6 core to that of a dual-core.
    I play many other games... some of them requiring 8 core with 32 gig memory. My play is faster than larger machines doing the same thing.
     
  9. Cantiel

    Cantiel Well-Known Member

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    for me, it's mainly the grindiness and repitition. i tried several hardcore packs, but quickly lost interest after spending hours without any progress at all, be it either due to having to manually craft thousands of electric circuits for a basic low voltage machine, or searching for hours on end for some rare material.
    i have a busy daily life, with only limited time for videogames, and if the pack is too grindy, it feels like i wasted precious time i could have spend with other games instead
     
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  10. LordEreh

    LordEreh much sad Doge

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    That's called "adult gaming" when you have limited time for gaming you dont "waste" time on not interesting game and you have not feel regret by doing that. Clearly you can say when you are adult your gaming is more enjoyable bc you play only games you like with rare occasions where you try some other game but on the other hand you make long research about that game, opinions and such stuff.

    From my experience on hardcore packs(GTNH) I hate doing them alone - spliting the grind between at least 2 people (best regards @mrminesheeps ) It's very nice to discuss what to do next, brag what you accomplish or come back and see hundreds of X stuff that you need to do Y. If that pack have questbook(GTNH, i love and i hate it) even single quest reward is enjoyable if you got lucky and get some stuff you need to progress
     
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  11. Willfon

    Willfon Moderator

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    … that I never get to finish the pack before the server closes down :D Because I play too slow on too many servers.

    Or any pack without a good story, expert or not. Just "collect 2^64 of cobble just because" is not fun, mostly because you cant do it without being a complete bongohead on a server. That kind of pack is best done in private, where you can put up a thousand cobblegens, or a chunk full of annihilation planes and the only one to suffer is yourself, but any efficient and fast way of doing those kind of packs would make everyone else on the server suffer.
     
  12. Sandstroem

    Sandstroem Patron Tier 3

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    This thread is kinda meh, I was actually tempted to copy the entire introduction post and make a "what do you dislike about kitchen sink packs in general", but i am lazy, so i guess not. Maybe later if I feel like it. I could take most arguments here in reverse and post them there.
     
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  13. LordEreh

    LordEreh much sad Doge

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    I share my very fresh "what I dislike" - lags, yes, lags. You can't even play the pack bc some individuals make their setups without safety measures, so ofetn they end up laggin whole server and those things are very hard to track down by staff.
    Because of those unfriendly player i abandoned the IE:E... I rly wanted to complete it bc I abandoned GTNH but not bc lags or high chunkload price but... my potato couldnt handle it no more...
     

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